gay marriage

Tiamat · Posted: Mon 05 Sep 2005 9:43 Post subject:

...Which goes back to religion, and progressive vs. conservative. (Is it just me, but isn't that the root of most issues?)

Is it "right" to not want children?

Who has the authority to judge what's "right" and what's "natural"? After all, if you have two contradicting statements, then only one can be valid, right? Trying to make decisions for another person--regardles of what your prerogatives are, or what you may think they are--is still exactly that.
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ShadowBeyondtheGrave · Posted: Fri 03 Feb 2006 20:14 Post subject:

That just ticks me off, and what about thsoe in the GSA (Gay-Straight alliance)? I mean I'm in that, and those stupid peopel in VA senate are trying to passs a stupid bill that will not allow GSA's in our state, why can't tehy just leave Gay's alone! They are people too, if they want to get married with someone they love then let them, it shouldn't be there decision!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

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Daughter of the Celts · Posted: Wed 08 Feb 2006 12:17 Post subject:

I support gay rights all the way!
Love is love, no matter who its between. they say america is a free country and i say :removed:! (sorry for the language)
if this country were free, Gays would be allowed to marry! Its not about gender, its about love! the government cant tell you who you can love or not. who cares if its guy-guy, girl-girl, or guy-girl. if you love yhe person, go for it! my personally im straight, but 90% of my friends are gay, lesbo and Bi. geys are the nicest people and the best friends you can make. dont take away their right to marry the ones they love!

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TigressoftheWind · Posted: Thu 09 Feb 2006 14:36 Post subject:

*blinks* Did I ever right a debate about this? Or did I write anything in is this section?

I fully support Gay Marriage. For a project last year I wrote a paper, though unfortuneately it's too long to put on here.

But the paper I wrote also had to do with religion and how it ties in with Gay Marriage.

They have these things called Civil Unions (I think...). They exist wherever Homosexuals are allowed to marry. And it's not marriage, but a legalized binding that I find to be a piece of crap. They should have every right to marry. Yes, the Bible does say that a man shall not lay with a man, it is sin (or something along those lines...I don't remember), but what about Freedom of Religion and the whole thing with Separate Of Church And State people?

When you get to the bottom of it, Homosexuals can have every right to do as they wish. And others use the Bible as an excuse not to allow them to marry...it's so irritating, and unfair. Men/Women have every right they should have, and that is said for EVERYONE!

(excuse me for my ranting. I am very passionate in this)
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AlchemicDragonOfPain · Posted: Sun 14 May 2006 17:15 Post subject:

(Don't worry! I'm very passionate in this too being a bisexual and all....)

I am completely for gay marriage. There are still some Christian gays (even though Christians have made it very difficult for any homosexual to believe in God) and therefore they should not be restricted by what they do in their free time. It's just a matter of everything everyone else has said and its another way of trying to #1 Go agianst people who are different or God forbid against the Christian Church! and #2 not treat everyone as an equal. What I do in my bedroom is none of anyones business. I'm tired of people saying its a perversion! What my body does and is appealed to is chemically in my body and no matter how much I look at a girl or even something thats not a girl, I can't force myself to get 'rid' of the perversion and suddenly say, 'Oh I like that because a book written by some stupid Englishmen says if I don't, than I'm perverted and not to mention if I don't like woman, I won't be 'normal' by society. Nobody should say what normal is because its an opinion. Being born gay is kinda like being born black or a certain race. Your going to have a few people against them but when it comes down to it, we're all the same! We should all have the same rights and as long as its not hurting anyone.
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AlchemicDragonOfPain · Posted: Mon 15 May 2006 13:45 Post subject:

Exactly and why do straight people egt to decide the rights of things that don't apply to them. It's not fair.....
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TigressoftheWind · Posted: Mon 15 May 2006 14:01 Post subject:

but it's reason. It's reasonable to take away things that don't belong to them, because they're afraid of change. They want things to be like a "Utopia" (what a corrupted Utopia it is). No differences. Everyone white, Christian, straight, and male. If push comes to shove, that's the way things are supposed to be.

Women don't have equal rights (for the most part, especially in marriage, but I won't get into that...and that is how I see it)

People of different color and race (again, for the most part, when it comes to color at least) don't have equal race.

Homosexuals don't have equal rights.

Our freedom of religion, in my opinion, is being taken away.

Need I say more?
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kimodragon · Posted: Wed 17 May 2006 19:12 Post subject:

Sex leads to reproduction not marriage! Marriage was designed so that if the male spouse dies before the female spouse the female can hold claim on the family property and not have it taken away by the goverenment. If the female holds property and dies than the male can lay claim on that property by right of a declaration of marriage that is recognized by the government and can be contested in a court of law if necessary. Marriage deals with government not the church. The church may hold the ceremony if that is your choice but it is the government that recognizes the legallity of a marriage. If you get married in front of the Justice of the Peace or a captain of a boat that is still deemed by our government as a legal union. Homosexuallity has nothing to do with government and should not be controlled and can not be controlled by government. Sexuallity is an individual choice, wether it be homo or hetero. The choice is to have sex or not to have sex! Sex is a part of nature wether it be homo or hetero and therefore is natural. The church can not say that nature is wrong or they are saying that God the creator of nature is wrong. Now the Bible does state that homosexuality goes against what God intended human sexuallity to be and that if homosexuality is discovered that those individuals should be put to death. Thus sayeth the word of God. The Word of God (Jesus Christ our Lord and Reedemer) said "Think not that I have come to destroy the law,or the prophets:I am not come to destroy but to fulfill the law." Now which law did he mean? The law of men ( the government) or the law of God? It is both. The law of God says kill homosexuals and the law of man says that it is illegal to kill unless they do it. By declaring war or by the death penalty. But Jesus preached forgivness and separation from that which is evil. " Be not conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind." But all of this only applies if it is your belief system and you apply it to your life. I do not so the laws of the church to not govern my life. I have great respect for them but they do not rule my actions. The laws of man have an immeadiate impact on my life so I am governed by them wether I agree or not. I do not believe in marriage either way homo or hetero for my life. Right now gay marriage is not legal, but neither was being black and walking down the street after dark not to long ago. But that changed as will everything. I say let Love rule. Wether it be homo or hetero.It is natural to love. So love me and I will love you back! Wether you be female or male!

Love,
Kimo
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