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SilverDragon
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Mar 2007 21:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion:

Gay marriage should be legalised. I personally believe there is no such thing as gay and straight anyway, everyone falls onto a scale and tends one way or the other, but is never fixed to any one point.

I believe marriage should be solely about who you love, however this is not the case, not now, just as it was not in the past: For centuries people have married those they don't love for many different reasons, the classic example are daughters being married off to fuse powerful families, or to prevent wars between countries. These marriages are obvious proof that there were considerable legal changes to be gained by marriage in the past, and there are still similar benefits granted now.

Because of these benefits, if you do marry for love you get a double advantage; you get both legal security, and a socially recognised union. So if you have any two human beings in love, preventing them from marrying for whatever reason(s) is nothing more than discrimination. So what reason is so strong? That gays / lesbians should be discriminated against in such a way?

The reason as I understand it is that marriage is done through the church, and the church follows the law of God: The law in question stated in the bible says that gay's are unnatural and hence shouldn't be allowed to exist. Science however, has proven that homosexual behaviour is perfectly natural, it occurs in other animals just as much, or in some species possibly even more than in humans.

So what wins, religion or science? I am not American and so I do not know about your freedom of religion laws and stuff. However, whatever the case, surely you are allowed freedom from religion?

In any case, unless the bible is to be rewritten, the Church is not about to begin willingly marrying gays. So here is my proposed conclusion: Seeing that there are legal benefits to be gained from marriage (never mind the other factors such as the concept!) It is completely unfair top prevent two people in love from marrying. If the Church won’t marry them, then that is its problem and there should be an alternative way for gays / lesbians to marry. So I believe it should be possible for gays to get married through the government (or some other power) instead.


Alright, I expect now to have this twenty minute essay to be picked to pieces by people. That is what comes of writing after being up half the night. But know that this is my opinion on the subject, and I shall continue to passionately argue it against all who disagree!
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2007 9:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

silver your AWSOME!!!!! Applause Applause Applause
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Ragnarok
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Mar 2007 10:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

SilverDragon wrote:
The reason as I understand it is that marriage is done through the church


No it isn't. Marriage is done through legal paperwork. The church ceremonies are just a ceremonial event that most people participate in. You can have the ceremony and be legally unmarried, or you can be legally married without a ceremony of any kind.

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Alright, I expect now to have this twenty minute essay to be picked to pieces by people.


Actually, you did quite well, so I've very little to comment on. Wink
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SilverDragon
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007 6:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou both very much scarletnightdragon and Ragnarok! Smile Smile

Ragnarok wrote:
No it isn't. Marriage is done through legal paperwork. The church ceremonies are just a ceremonial event that most people participate in. You can have the ceremony and be legally unmarried, or you can be legally married without a ceremony of any kind.

If this is the case then marriage already is done through the government then... And I really and truly can't see any reason why gays / lesbians shouldn't be allowed to marry. *sigh*
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007 9:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

simple as, let them marry as long as they love each other then what is there to get in a hissy about? i mean we love our boyfriends/girlfriends dont we? we would still marry them even if we were gay right? so whos to say its wrong?
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Mar 2007 13:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

icedheart wrote:
i mean we love our boyfriends/girlfriends dont we? we would still marry them even if we were gay right?


Probably not, unless both parties are bisexual. You'd likely be good friends, but I don't think that you'd marry them.
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2007 12:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i stand out spoken!... for this moment in time!
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Apr 2007 15:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, lets turn the discrimination around. If a Christian (or Jew or Muslim for that matter) is discriminating against gay people by condemning gay marriage then isn't legalizing it discriminating against Christians? Basically, legalizing gay marriage would be like saying that Christian ideas are not valid simply because they are associated with religion yet at the same time forcing people to accept the belief that gay marriage is okay. Personally I really couldn't care less weather someone is gay or not; its when they try to get other people to accept them for it that I draw the line.
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