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DragonofWitness Dragonstar

Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 5 Location: Williamstown, PA, USA
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Posted: Sun 04 Apr 2010 6:40 Post subject: What If?? |
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How would you see it if it was, for example, part of someones religion to allow gay and straight marriage? What If it was a totally separate from Christianity or any other religion?
This would not seem fair if the government said no to them being bonded likewise (in the states eyes.) It would also show some problems in there rights if other religions would try and take control of them by saying it is against there God, when they don't even beleive in there God. It would violate there Freedom of Religion and would show that the majority can push the minority around.
This is just a 'what if' situation, but what if? _________________ Find Grace and Love and Light will always be in you.
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SkieFireYokana Shining Dragonstar

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Drowning in the landlocked sea of humanity.
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Posted: Sun 04 Apr 2010 10:54 Post subject: |
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No, it's not just a "what if" situation. There are religions out there--Buddhism, Wicca, various forms of shamanism I'm sure, et cetera--that permit gay marriages; there are also various lacks of a religion--atheism and agnosticism and deism (that one's a bit old-fashioned now, but still around) are the primary ones you'll hear about--and all of them permit gay marriage. This isn't a "what if" situation. This is exactly what's happening. Not everyone believes in a God that hates gay marriage.
I, for one, have what would be called a set of beliefs (because it sure isn't a religion), and this set of beliefs includes the idea that love shouldn't be so blind as people consider it, and that marriage should reflect that idea. I do have to make a very big distinction between love and sex: the former is appropriate between any two things or people, whereas the latter should only be done by two aware, consenting parties. This means they have to have the ability to consent, which immediately rules out children below an age where they just don't understand, mentally or emotionally retarded people, animals (only the ones that aren't at least as intelligent as an adult human, which is to say all the ones we know about), et cetera. So basically, my "religion" (more like set of beliefs, again) includes this and the idea that marriage should not simply be to raise a family, it should be out of love. If people restrict marriage to "One man, one woman" like has just happened here in California, they're specifically violating my religious rights. _________________ Happy Fourth of July everybody! The funniest thing about this signature is that I wrote it on the fourth of July, 2010, and it's probably going to be here for several months. |
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CB Dragonstar

Joined: 20 Oct 2009 Posts: 163 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon 05 Apr 2010 14:28 Post subject: |
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Anti-gay marriage to be honest is hypocriticle of the very idea this country was founded on, which is basically that you have the right to do what you want AS LONG AS it does not infringe on the rights of others.
While there are valid (but flaky) arguements against things like smoking and the like, gay marriage does not, in any way shape or form, violate the rights of another in a way that could justify reasonable action from the courts. You dont like it? Good for you, dont do it yourself.
The gay marriage laws are hypocritical and, from my perspective of the law, downright unconstitutional, and is just an example of shallow minded religeous nuts getting their way because no political official wants to risk losing a large group of ignorant voters from being tied to the idea of homosexuality. _________________ I would love to have you on MSN, send me a PM with your IM account. Or not, if your that kind of person. |
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SkieFireYokana Shining Dragonstar

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 394 Location: Drowning in the landlocked sea of humanity.
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Posted: Thu 08 Apr 2010 11:58 Post subject: |
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Which is, thankfully, being fixed. Slowly, but it IS getting fixed, and Obama claims to be pushing a bill through right now that will repeal the anti-sodomy part of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. A topic in itself, that... back on topic, though, at least there are places now where being openly gay won't get your teeth smashed out (or in), and there are in fact certain places where you can get married to someone with the same sexual organs without a problem. :3 And, as history has shown us, the fight against religious whackjobs will eventually win out, and someday even the most fundamental of Christians will look back and say "How could they even think of using the Bible to justify that?" Just like with the anti-slavery movement, women's rights, and the blot on the history of Western thinking that is the time of witch burnings. _________________ Happy Fourth of July everybody! The funniest thing about this signature is that I wrote it on the fourth of July, 2010, and it's probably going to be here for several months. |
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Hyraxylos Shining Dragonstar
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 805 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sun 08 Aug 2010 9:22 Post subject: |
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14th Amendment ftw!
I don't watch television much lately, but the few glimpses I've been getting each evening have alerted my attention to the rather strangely large new flow of seemingly homophobic political ads in my state. I don't begin to suppose that my oh-so-incredibly-wise and learned state could possibly be NERVOUS about something.  _________________ The statement below this one is false.
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Fenris Shining Dragonstar

Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 582 Location: Lost in the paradoxes of logic
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Posted: Fri 10 Dec 2010 10:28 Post subject: |
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oddly enough (I just thought I'd add a little tid bit) though it is illegal to get married to the same sex. It's perfectly legal to get married to wild stock. _________________ The impossible is only impossible as long as the possible has yet to be proven possible
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Albert Dragonstar
Joined: 26 Apr 2012 Posts: 1 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr 2012 2:16 Post subject: |
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Well, In my opinion, it is against the law of nature but there are so many countries who passed the law of gay marriage. They defined the relationship or marriage in legal manner. _________________ Online term life quotes |
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salaiek Dragonstar
Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 69
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Posted: Fri 27 Apr 2012 14:31 Post subject: |
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| Albert wrote: |
| Well, In my opinion, it is against the law of nature but there are so many countries who passed the law of gay marriage. They defined the relationship or marriage in legal manner. |
Technically, the institute of marriage itself is against the 'law of nature'. Animals don't get married to each other. But yet there are so many instances of homosexual behaviour in animals (yes, mostly as a form of social dominance, I know), using 'law of nature' as an argument is even more moot. |
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