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ScathingKatana
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I agree as well. People need to learn that its a book and that it is made up. Personally I think the church is insecure in this day and age. Years ago they ruled everything and now that people think for themselves more and dont strictly follow the bible so the church tries to discredit anything that would have them lose members.
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dfangd
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| dragonfang wrote: |
| The pope wasn't a murdere in Angels and Demons. He was murdered, by the camerlango(spelling?). |
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Okay, fine. Sorry for my life-endangering mistake.
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DarkDragon
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| Posted: Mon 05 Jun 2006 8:39 Post subject: |
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| ScathingKatana wrote: |
| Dragonfang is right. And that would not be more controversial because that is a fictional situation. IN the da vinci code there are (depending on who you are...) no proofs to discredit or credit the theory. And thats what gets people freaked out. That what they have practiced for so long is a lie. |
I however, see it as more contraversial myself, but that is a different discussion.
What gets people freaked out is that it would upset by the fact that Mary Magdalene was a whore (Using this in context, though she was later cleared of the title by the Catholic Church). So, Jesus Christ married a whore? That would turn the ideals of a lot of people upside down, mostly the fundamentalists, but also a vast number of other christians. To them, Jesus not being virgin was counter to their belief in his purity.
But did the Bible not say he came to earth as a man, to live as a man? I personally do not see how this is so heretical. He lived as a man, so why would that preclude marriage? And Mary was one of his closest followers, closer than some of the disciples...
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| I agree as well. People need to learn that its a book and that it is made up. Personally I think the church is insecure in this day and age. Years ago they ruled everything and now that people think for themselves more and dont strictly follow the bible so the church tries to discredit anything that would have them lose members. |
People know it is made up. It is the idea that scares many. It upsets their preconceptions of Christ. The church denying there is any proof hardly seems insecure, since there is no proof either way. The book says the Vatican keeps the lie goign to keep itself in power, but this feeds on our fears, and does not necessarily potray the reality of the Vatican.
Myself? I find it all to be ideas, nothing more. No need for such upheval... It is no worse than many of the works over the centuries. As for the Da Vinci code, I'll stick to what his code really was: Leonardo wrote his journals in mirror-writing, being left handed..
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dfangd, I hadn't ment to make it sound like that, sorry if I did... (The only downside to writting is the fact that there's no voices...)
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ScathingKatana
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Darkdragon when I said that the church in insecure I didn't mean that they are insecure about the Da Vinci code. In my opinion I think that the church is insecure in itself because of all the controversy of everything with new gay marriage and homosexuality in itself on the rise and with more and more people stopping going to church. I dunno I just feel like they need to reinstate that it is a work a lie so much because they're scared they will lose members to the belief that its real. Our pastor told me and its def. true about our church at least.
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DarkDragon
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| Posted: Tue 06 Jun 2006 7:55 Post subject: |
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| I dunno I just feel like they need to reinstate that it is a work a lie so much because they're scared they will lose members to the belief that its real. Our pastor told me and its def. true about our church at least. |
Is it the church that is making the uproar about it, or is it the media repeating over and over what they have said? Here at BTC, it's a respounding answer: Media.
It's a form of sensationalism. The media has a story with relegious conotations, and something that some see as heretical and they jump all over it. They report about it ad naseum and it makes people think the Church is going totally bananas over it, when really, they're not. They condem it yes, but they probably haven't done it as much as the media would have us believe.
The church goes by the doctrine they have had for centuries, long before your great-great-grandparents were even born. Change does not simply happen overnight with an organization such as that. It takes time, and it will probably be at least another century before the doctrine shows any real change.
As for your church, that's just your church. Mine happens to be much more open about it. We accept that it is possible Jesus married, and being as Mary Magdaline was among his closest followers, it may well have been here. He forgave her for her sins, and that meant she was forgiven. Her slate was wiped clean and she started anew when she followed him. So it would have been perfectly fine for him to have married her, since she was forgiven her sins and purified.
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ScathingKatana
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| Posted: Tue 06 Jun 2006 10:53 Post subject: |
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Also the Da Vinci Code says that Mary Magdelene was not a prostitute and all that yahoo. What do you think about that?
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I don't that Mary Magdelene was a prostitue, espescially if she did marry jesus... Because if that was the case, then she would have been faithfull, even though she didn't know him her entire life I realise that, but I just think that she wouldn't have done that.
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