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Dragoneyes Dragonstar

Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 69 Location: Great Lake State, Michigan,U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan 2008 6:56 Post subject: |
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Dragons have been written about in many cultures of the world. To many to be a myth. I believe that they where pushed to near extinction by humans because of fear. Could they still be around? It is possible, I think they had to adapt. Most dragons according to text from many cultures they where very intelligent. They may have even learned how to transform. Your friend might be one.... _________________ Look into the eyes of the dragon and it will reveal your soul.... |
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Namhias Shining Dragonstar
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 1055
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan 2008 8:40 Post subject: |
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| Yep, I am! But I'm guessing that's not what you meant. I don't think dragons would be able to transform into humans. The laws of physics still apply in this world. |
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Hyraxylos Shining Dragonstar
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 805 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed 23 Jan 2008 14:49 Post subject: |
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| Dragoneyes wrote: |
| Most dragons according to text from many cultures they where very intelligent. They may have even learned how to transform. Your friend might be one.... |
If this ever turns out to be the case then the CIA is probably in on it. *looks around suspiciously* _________________ The statement below this one is false.
The statement above this one is true.
This statement is false. |
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Draquenvar Dragonstar
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 26 Location: The Sky
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Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2008 0:16 Post subject: |
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(Pardon in advance my longwinded-ness)
Well, for one thing it depends on what is meant by the word "real." If by "real" one means that dragons exist or had existed in the same physical plane that the humans are familiar with, then there is little evidence to support that claim. However, there are plenty of things that make sense that cannot be shown or proven - plenty of things that many of us feel that we know are "real" or right... things we cannot deny that come from the depths of our selves. Reality is all a matter of perception; just because something can be proven does not mean it is more "real" to a person than something else that cannot be proven in a similar manner. Some things are proven by mathematical equations, and other things are proven by having something you can touch physically. Proof, to me, only means that there is significant evidence to support something's general acceptance.
And then, of course, you would have to define what makes a dragon a dragon, in almost the same way. I think most of us would agree that not all dragons have the same physical or spiritual features. I, for example, would describe myself as having a tail with two large spikes on the end, four claws on each hand and foot, a triple set of flexible silvery spikes down my spine, plating on my underbelly, two wings, and two horns made of silver. Obviously, not all dragons would say the same things when describing themselves physically or otherwise. Defining what makes a "dragon" is, in my opinion, not something that can be called exact.
Thus, I would like to say, after defining a "dragon" as a creature even vaguely similar in description to myself that is part of the makeup of an individual (spiritual or otherwise) - and defining "real" as something that, while not necessarily able to be easily or visibly proven to everyone, is something that feels substantially "right" and has some supporting evidence - that dragons ARE real.
Sometimes I feel like the difficulty that lies behind 'proving' my existence to others is not only a challenge, but also very rewarding. I might be able to prove that I exist to people who share the same feelings I do - I might be able to say to some people "Can you feel my soul?" and they might be able to, and that would be 'proof' for that type of person. But since most people don't have or aren't in touch with those sorts of feelings, I have to explain or display things to them in ways they can understand - and that is the real challenge.
The most important idea here is to know what is being asked; once ambiguities are eliminated, the question - while still a finicky and difficult one - becomes much easier to answer.
Finally, I leave you with a word of my own advice:
Some things others cannot prove for you, some things you must prove for yourself.  _________________ Rawr.
-Draquenvar |
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Dragons Creed Dragonstar

Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 44
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Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2008 18:22 Post subject: |
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| Thats good advice. But, just because you have proven it to yourself, does not mean others will take it as proof as well =( That to me is the whole dilema of prooving dragons or anything for that matter. Science is enough proof to some while others need more, and others still need different proof. Proof is a double edged sword. |
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Hyraxylos Shining Dragonstar
Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 805 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sat 26 Jan 2008 12:44 Post subject: |
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Well this sort of reasoning is the source of why I question the importance of convincing others of one's own beliefs. DOES it really matter whether everyone else believes?
See, this is why I found the ideals of personal faith more appealing than an organized religion that DEMANDS faith. It’s the “organization” part that needs money from people, even though money really doesn’t serve well in my opinion as a means of saying that you believe in something. If a church organization doesn’t get money, it collapses regardless of whether people simply believe or not.
But if someone doesn’t believe me (or any otherkin for that matter), then I (or they) lose… what? _________________ The statement below this one is false.
The statement above this one is true.
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dragonstalon Dragonstar
Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri 01 Feb 2008 16:42 Post subject: yes! |
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I know dragons existed in one time or another.
My explanation is: Although there is no real physical evidence of their existence, but if you think about it, you come to understand that absolutely every culture in the world going as far back history can be presented by evidence, there has always been dragons. Now how can all these cultures have stories or tellings of dragons when there was no communication between them? Unless they actually existed! Now, on with the fact that there is no physical evidence of their existence? well there is a good explanation for this, and it all ties back to one element...hydrogen!
when you look at a dragon (imagine a classic dark ages dragon NOT a wyvern) you think with a couple tons of muscle and scale be held up in the air by the wings the size that they were? Hydrogen! As well known hydrogen is the lightest element in the world, this held them up in flight. As for fire? once again... you guessed it! hydrogen! Also well known hydrogen is extremely flammable, the slightest bit of heat or a spark can turn any amount of hydrogen up in flame! Now you ask how does a dragon get hydrogen into it's system and hold it? 1st brimstone.... Yes brimstone is a type of rock found were there was volcanic activity once upon a time. If a dragon had a pouch that could hold this gas when it was ingested it could compress it into liquid form allowing it to preform the tasks described above. And finally back to my very first question, the lack of scales, bone, skin and or fossils. How? Once more hydrogen is the culprit. When in liquid form large enough quantities of hydrogen can be corrosive! When a dragon dies the pouch with the hydrogen "bleeds" though the dragons body, and therefor leave no trace of the dragon!
In this paragraph I have explained why I think dragons did exist and why there is no evidence of there existence and even how a dragon worked! I would love for people to read and enjoy this new information and respond any way you want. Good or bad I do not care about this new information. But I would like, since this is my own theory for this post to be "stolen" if you will, but feel free to take this info and possibly make your own theory about dragons! Thank you.
Please use correct spelling, it would make your post much easier to read. ~Namhias. |
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Namhias Shining Dragonstar
Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 1055
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Posted: Fri 01 Feb 2008 18:55 Post subject: |
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The theory of dragons using hydrogen has been disproved more then once. I'll summarize why.
1. Hydrogen may be the lightest element there is, but in order for it to work, the dragon would have to look more like a hot air balloon then a dragon. There is the law of Buoyancy to consider.
2. Hydrogen would burn as an invisible flame. Although as interesting as it may sound, the fact that everybody thought that dragon flame was yellow, proves the hydrogen couldn't have been used as a fuel. Also, hydrogen burns very quickly. the dragon would be out of gas pretty quick.
3. It is not easy to compress hydrogen and make it in liquid form. The liquid has to be kept under constant pressure, or else it would turn into a gas again. (which would be very painful for the dragon I imagine.) Also, in liquid form, the hydrogen would lose its sole advantage, once again, thanks to Buoyancy.
So, all that makes existence of a "hydrogen dragon" pretty far fetched. |
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