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Do you think a Black dragon is misunderstood?
Yes
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No
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skulblaka
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Sep 2008 13:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

salaiek wrote:
Black dragons have the same capacity to be 'evil' as a White dragon does; when it comes down to it, colour has pretty much nothing to do with whether a dragon is good, evil, neutral, or whatever. To stereotype behaviours with colours is something that only exists in human minds, something that was likely made up by fantasy authors and those who made role-playing games such as D&D.
I myself know a black dragon who is one of the nicest dragons I know, actually.


Ik I am a little late on this thread but if you look at Naomi Novik's Temeraire series the black dragon is a hero and a white dragon is a villain. There is no such thing as a dragon that is forced evil by their color... I think the idea that an rpg company decided to make certain dragons this and that by color is more accurate than anything.
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PostPosted: Mon 29 Sep 2008 15:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonwriterX wrote:
Black dragons are always misunderstood. Anything that just looks evil is misunderstood.


Interesting generalization here. -.- It's really just survival instinct though. If something is easily capable of eating you, then you're supposed to fear it. The only real trouble is that hate tends to butt in and take over where there's only supposed to be fear and move things to the next level of going out to LOOK for specific creatures for the perverted pleasure of wiping them out.

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They are a great race. Not as much as the dragon race but they are good all the same.


I assume 'they' refers to humanity. If the two were merely separate by 'races' then it wouldn't have been nearly as much of a big deal. But it's actually a difference of class, and this isn't the first time mammals and reptiles have squared off.

skulblaka wrote:
Ik I am a little late on this thread but if you look at Naomi Novik's Temeraire series the black dragon is a hero and a white dragon is a villain. There is no such thing as a dragon that is forced evil by their color... I think the idea that an rpg company decided to make certain dragons this and that by color is more accurate than anything.


The whole thing about color has appeared in tons of places in various stories. I don't really understand the psychology of it. d'oh!
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008 15:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a black Dragon/ness myself. Most of my clanmates are black Dragons too. Not many of us are evil. I don't believe that scale color determines one's moral standings, or who's good and evil. I believe it's entirely based on one's personality, and life experiences. A couple of my Dragon brothers were very evil as Dragons. But they learned from their mistakes over a really long course of time, and became good Dragons. Personally, as a black Dragon/ness, I was naturally good. Then again it could of been due to the fact that I'm dual elemental. I'm Light and Dark. I'm not sure whither my being dual elemental had do with it or not. But I'll stick with it all depends on one's personality and life experiences.
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Oct 2008 6:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay The point I was making about anything that looks evil is misunderstood was that if humans don't understand something. They will either take it apart or destroy it. As Hyraxylos said hate and fear take over.
When you look at a snake many people think they are slimy and out to kill you. We all know (least I hope) that snakes are not. In truth nothing is out to get us for no reason at all. When some one in a make believe setting. See a dragon they are as the author wrote it always, out to get the dragon.

As I said in another topic. (This goes for any creature) A dragon will attack only if provoked or perhaps it is nesting, and does not want anything to disturb the process. This is one reason I can think of for a dragon attacking a village. Not to kill them but to drive them away, (Yes I am justifying a dragon attack, on a village or anyone.)

Would you want something around that could pose a threat to you or your kin. I would not. As I said it is nothing personal that the dragon attacks. Wrong place at the wrong time. At first in a dragon movie, the dragon flies over head. Announcing it's presence. Then he breathes his/her fire. Not to kill, but to warn. (Of course people start running about) In most movies the dragon cannot talk. So it has to rely on body language. This is annoying to the dragon I am sure. (This is just a scenario in my head not an actual movie) He/She wants the people to go in the direction it flies, Leading them away from where the dragon wants to settle, claiming it as his/her territory.

In a Provoked attack the dragon will fight to defend itself. Like Draco had to do in Dragon heart. Back on point. Kye I think Black dragons are misunderstood. No dragon is truly evil, not to my eyes


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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2008 7:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read the book DragonsBane, in there it says how a dragon is actually born of a variety of colors since it hasn't had any influences from other dragons and hasn't develped a personality, and as he/she grows and gets older, their personality grows, and depending on the personality is what color you get. The eldest of dragons, Morkeleb the Black, is as his title states, he is a black dragon because of his personality and traits. That is, he enjoys stealing and hoarding gold and slaughtering towns just for the fun of it. Of course gold has another meaning to dragons in that book. Read it and find out, takes a while before you get to the point where the main characters arn't slaying dragons but in the end its VERY GOOD.

If a dragon's color truly reflects their personality, than no, blacks are not misunderstood. But if it is the same way with humans where skin color does not affect personality, then yes, they are severely misunderstood.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2008 10:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldendragon wrote:
If you read the book DragonsBane,...


Fantasy books are rarely good resources.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2008 10:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only meant to use it as an example of how a dragon's color actually reflects how their personality is. In this case it is a very good resource since it is a prime example of how color "could" effect lifestyle.
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov 2008 16:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's only true in the books, it doesn't mean that it's true for all dragons. I was a silver dragon, yet I don't fit in the Lawful Good category of the D&D system...
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