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Dragoneyes
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Feb 2008 20:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had many of these over the years, you'll learn to be patient in the future. Sometimes it's better to listen to your other before demanding anything...
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Namhias
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2008 8:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of what? I hope you don't mean physical shapeshifting.
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Dragoneyes
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Feb 2008 20:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

No dreams, Desu Vue, seeing things outside of my physical self.....
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Hyraxylos
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Mar 2008 7:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inhuman Q wrote:
I read it all. Interesting....... But I couldn't truthfully say that I'm not the tiniest bit skeptical. I know from that 'Inner kin' discussion topic that you're used to hearing that, though. I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt. Smile


Yes, I welcome the knowledge that anyone reading it has at least the slightest doubt. Smile It assures me that others are thoroughly analyzing the details properly.

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But that last bit, where Master talks about you having to get used to the pain of transformation for when you finally have to do it 'for real', does that mean you'll be able to physically shapeshift one day? Just curious.


I have no intention of shapeshifting for real. That would be a very bad idea in this modern world. I've been told that I actually have the potential to LEARN how if I wish, but I might never want to become human again if I did.

Dragoneyes wrote:
I have had many of these over the years, you'll learn to be patient in the future. Sometimes it's better to listen to your other before demanding anything...


Yeah right. Sorry but Master already tried that several times before this happened. And I found out for real that he actually DIDN’T intend to show me what the original Hyrax looked like; he made the mistake of answering my yes/no question. Remember we can't lie to each other without getting caught at it.

It really hurt me because we swore an important oath on our very existences that we would uphold certain conditions to one another, and learning my dragon form was one of them. When I discovered he was trying to slip out of the agreement, I threatened to obliviate us both. Then he decided that I was "too dangerous" to be allowed to exist anymore, so he lured me into his prison to try and absorb me before the appointed time; two betrayals in one. Sad
I managed to wake myself up at the last second though, and my other half realized that not only had he attempted to ruin the oath, but he hadn't even gained anything from it; I survived it and he's still dead. The very least he could do then to earn forgiveness was to give me the knowledge I wanted.
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Roark
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jun 2008 10:21    Post subject: The Dragons Raging With in. Reply with quote

That was an increatible story. It sucked me in right from the start. Definatly should post it in the writing section. I must say.
I too have the samething. Not as intense as you do, but I here all these voices in my head like someone is always talking to me. I know there dragons. They told me so. There is no telling how many dragons are raging in me, I don't really know what all of them look like, I just imagine.They are always speaking. I am just thankful they let me sleep at night. Thing is we've learn to coexist with one another. Sometimes they speak to me in dreams or some times just out of the blue. Sometimes I get caught talking to them in public. To humans I'm some kind of Schizo. I somewhat learned what it is they want of me. They said that they want me to be their voice. I can't explain what that means, I don't even know. That's why I think I'm here. To let others hear what they have to say. Few of them will make there prescence known to every one throught the books I write.
Arbiter and Auroara are two dragons that exist in a story here on SDB.
We all know each other well, many more dragons seek me out, asking me questions I could never know, or only they should know.
I just do the best I can to listen. Truth is I wouldn't want it anyother way.
All you must do to hear him out is listen. That's all anyone wants is to be whole. I do hope you make peace with him. As I think he may be a powerful ally.
I write all these words not only for you but for your dragon as well. Try the song Comftorbly Numb. That song helped me alot. Aaron Lewis's version of it is best. Or I could just post the lyrics here.
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Eternity
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Mar 2009 9:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragonwriterx, I say this: be wary.

I too, heard voices. I have thought that they were many things-- demons, vampires, shadows, spirits, gods... I could go on. I'm not saying that your voices are not dragons- no, I'm not saying that at all. I am just giving you a warning....Please, please heed it.

I have heard these voices since for as long as I can remember...

My voices differed- some were what I called "the committee". They argued amongst themselves almost constantly, and did not seem to be aware that I was there. If I got bored, I would merely listen to them, and sometimes try to get their attention (that never worked). The rest of the time they were a kind of buzz in the back of my head. Then there were other voices; I didn't have a name for them because I never wanted to think about them more than I had to. They would make criticisms of me a lot. In fact thats all they did. Just basically point out all my imperfections. They had different personalities. For instance, I could expect a certain voice to be sarcastic, or more harsh than some of the others. There were random voices, too. But predominately, there was Relipitonayo. I called him "Rip" for short. He warned me right from the get go that I should not tell others about him, because they would make him disappear. "You don't want me to disappear, do you?" Of course I didn't-- he was my very own friend! One that I could take with me, wherever I go, and would be there whenever I needed. Sometimes he would just whisper his thoughts in my ear, other times we had conversations. There was one rule, though: Whenever we talked, I had to be outside.
So time went on, and he was my friend, my therapist, my solace. Then one day, when I was 16, something changed. Never before could I see him-- I could only hear him. But this day, I saw him. He scared me-- he was like nothing I had ever seen before, and he let of a very negative energy that I had never sensed before. From that point on, he changed. He gave whispered commands of what to do. Some things were ridiculous, and even embarassing at times. But he always assured me that it was some sort of "magic" and that he was just testing my abilities, or that it was a certain ritual that would allow more magic to be around me. Having trusted him all of my life, I sapped it right up. Things progressed. He started telling me to do dishonest things-- lie, steal, say something rude, whatever. I still trusted him. After all, when had he ever led me wrong? And plus, he was putting magic into my life! What more could someone like me want? Then, the first incident happened. The cops picked me up and took me home, because i was wondering around on the highway 18 miles from my home at 2 AM. (For those that live in a place other than America--that's when its really dark and in my city, and everyone is asleep). Why was I doing that? To talk to Rip, of course! He would fill my head with stories of magic. But I couldn't tell anyone, because as he had long ago told me, that would make him go away. So instead he told me to lie-- I was suicidal, that's why I was doing it. (Oh, I left out part of the story-- to get to where I was picked up at, I had to cross a low water crossing bridge that was flooded. I just waded across it, even though the water was up to my waist.)
So, that was my first trip to the psych ward. This happened 7 times in 13 months. In and out. And each time was progressively worse. I kept hurting others. Fights and arguments, or just really negative comments. And of course, I kept hurting myself. I would cut myself, or purposely try to break my bones (like hitting my arm repeatedly with a 5 pound weight). I was labeled as having "suicidal and homicidal ideations/tendencies. It became so bad that I didn't want to do it anymore.Why though, did I continue to do it? Because he started threatening to hurt those that I loved if I did not do these different things. But yet, I trusted him. It really hit me when I overdosed. I had drinken 2 bottles of liquor, on his command, and then taken over 400 asprin pills. I had a nose bleed and lost my eyesight for 4 days because of it, not to mention that I was in intensive care at the hospital for a week. That's when I realized what he was trying to hurt me. That he had lied to me, and did NOT intend me good. So that's when I told the doctor about it. Everything just came pouring out- the embarassament, the guilt, the threats, the thinking and being told that you might never get your eyesight back...everything. That's when they diagnosed me as having schizophrenia, and put me on medication.
It seemed that everything was better for a while, but then slowly, Rip entered my life once more. To say the least, I ended up stabbing myself twice in the abdomen with an 8 inch butcher knife. I did NOT want to die at all, and I was so very, very scared. I had to wait for the ambulence to arrive, all the while lying in a pool of my own blood, because it hurt to move the least bit, and the pain was getting worse the longer time went on. Eventually I started drifting in and out of consciousness, filled with pure terror. They weren't even sure if they wanted to bother getting the helicopter to come pick me up, becase I had lost so much blood, and was fading fast. In the end, they decied to try, because it was some rule or something.... I barely remember being on the helicopter, and I was just filled with dread. I wasn't ready to die, not yet! I was so young, only 17...I know what they mean about your life flashing before your eyes. Except its not what you think. You just start realizing all the things you are going to miss, and that you are not going to be able to take these people/animals, etc., with you.... Then I drifted....


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I woke up. I was disoriented for a very long time, but then it all came back to me. I was in such pain! I took the hospital blankets off. It hurt too much to try and take the gown off to see. It hurt to do anything. I eventually saw myself a few days later, when they let me take a bath. Hurting horribly, I looked down once the gown was off. From my solar plexus to below my belly button (and the belly button was slightly off to the side) there was a crease, held together by 37 staples. They had had to do exploratory surgery, to figure out just what I hit. It turned out that both stab wounds had penetrated my literal stomach, and they had to sew that up, or whatever they do--I'm not quite sure, and I'd like to keep it that way.

To make a long story short, I finally found what I we believe to be the right combination of medications. I am doing soooo much better! I'm almost normal, and slowly getting that way. I do not hear the voices any more. What is more, something truly wonderful has happened. I am going through my awakening! No, I do not believe that I was a dragon, for now my beliefs revolve around the theory that I was one of the grigori. But that's for another time, if at all. I'm just...changing. Things are finally looking up, and I am so happy for it.

But why am I telling you all of this? Because, out of pure concern and personal experience, I want you to be careful. I am not saying that they are--not saying that at all( How would I know? I have never met you, nor am I a professional), but they could be hallucinations. And, as in the case of schizophrenia, hallucinations and delusions tend to go hand in hand. And for some, as I have shown, that can be extremely dangerous. So just please, for your own sake, be open to the fact that it is a definite possibility that these are hallucinations possibly combined with delusions. If you come to the conclusion that it is so, I urge you with all my heart to seek professional help, because the very last thing I want to happen to somebody is for them to go through the same thing I did.
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Jasriella
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PostPosted: Sat 21 Mar 2009 17:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with all of these, rather horrible hapenings I cannot help but envy you two in the slightest. As far as I can tell I have always been alone in my sufferings. And you have no idea how horrible that has been. To suffer day in and day out, and have no one to physically confide in to. No one to share my joys, sorrows, no one to be there to catch me when I fall or to teach me to pick myself back up when I do. I....I know its horrible to be lost in myself like this but I can't keep this inside any more. I've never really fit in with any group. And even the groups that I have decided to, "hang out" with, I have always been the oddball and I have never felt that I belonged. This site is the only place I have ever been able to confide thanks to the loving and caring....well I'll just say members. But there is no voice to the words I read, you're not there when my sorrows come, you're not there when my world brightens.

I honestly feel that I've been taken from my home and put into a pit of snakes. Roark, I hope you're paying close attention. This world is not my home. I have never felt this place to be home. Even in my own house laying in my own bed I feel that I'm not at home. Home for me is wherever I was before this life. You may have helped me learn of where that may be, but then again I could just be losing my mind, but I hope within every inch of my soul that I'm not.
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Hyraxylos
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PostPosted: Sun 22 Mar 2009 16:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, sure been a long while since I've revisited this thread. o.O
Eternity wrote:
He warned me right from the get go that I should not tell others about him, because they would make him disappear. "You don't want me to disappear, do you?"

Did he continually tell you this several times? If so that would have made me VERY suspicious. The tone of voice looks like a parent telling their child to lie about something or else the courts will break up their family. "You don't want to break up our family, do you?"
Reading further, this jerk sounds bit by bit even MORE like an abusive parent figure who grows darker the more you give in to him. Since what I've had to deal with was very different, I'm not sure what I'd have done against this kind of treatment. Confused

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But why am I telling you all of this? Because, out of pure concern and personal experience, I want you to be careful. I am not saying that they are--not saying that at all( How would I know? I have never met you, nor am I a professional), but they could be hallucinations. And, as in the case of schizophrenia, hallucinations and delusions tend to go hand in hand. And for some, as I have shown, that can be extremely dangerous. So just please, for your own sake, be open to the fact that it is a definite possibility that these are hallucinations possibly combined with delusions. If you come to the conclusion that it is so, I urge you with all my heart to seek professional help, because the very last thing I want to happen to somebody is for them to go through the same thing I did.

This part made me smile a bit because of all the quips I've gotten internally about how "<Lie>You know I'm actually not a real consciousness at all, and you're not really otherkin. It's just that you've gone absolutely nuts and should probably be locked up." At first it got to me, but after putting myself through a scenario of "what if it's all fake", I discovered that it wouldn't really affect me quite so much as I'd thought. Now those whisperings only make me chuckle.

@Galadreil: I'd say that it's better to be lonely than to be successfully compelled by an inner voice (whatever its nature) to do the things aforementioned. In my case though, I've only been miserable when I let my guard down. As annoying as the two of me are to each other sometimes, we CAN still converse with each other and since a few months ago we've somewhat reached a new level of reconciliation. We're better listeners than we used to be and now mostly bad-mouth each other only out of customary habit. ^_^;
In response to you having "never belonged", I've got a parallel of that which I'm kinda going through another round of right now, and it's that all the friends I make "drift away" from me over time. Other life-related stuff popped up which spurred me to grow away from everyone else and so on. My problem is different from yours but all in all it comes down to having someone to be able to talk to. Criteria I think that are good to watch out for:

1. They're honest about their feelings and will give you the straight truth when telling you bad news, yet with enough verbal finesse that the pain is minimalized.
2. They're not likely to run away from a conversation if they don't like where it's going, and are remarkably forgiving.
3. They make it easy for you to do the same for them when they're not feeling well.

The only thing this doesn't cover is how to MEET such a person and I'm not sure what to say about that. :\
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You may have helped me learn of where that may be, but then again I could just be losing my mind, but I hope within every inch of my soul that I'm not.

If by "mind" you happen to mean "sanity", I'd offer to lend you mine but I seem to have misplaced it a long time ago. Very Happy
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