Spiritual "realm"

[Shadow Dragon]

Can anyone give me some personal infomation on the topic? I have read up several sources and whatever, so I am not really interested in a dictionary definition. So does anyone have any personal stories, or meditation skills, things like that that they'd like to talk about?
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Here I lay, my claws and tail at peace. I rest my eyes and begin to sleep. Dreams fill my visions as mankind has fallen and dragons rule again.

[Hyraxylos]

I believe (and I truly mean "believe", not "assert" or "proclaim" ) it to be a sort of offshoot-dimension of the one we're in, the one we know as "reality". From it there's a general sense of "spirits only", meaning to enter you'd have to ditch your material body. An explanation, of sorts, as to how ghosts can see and hear things that are "real" (i.e. physical) but cannot touch or change them.
I can control my own dreams somehow. It's a pretty awesome thing to be able to do, and I can project myself into a temple-like place I like to think of as my mind, which is divided up into different shrines (for the conscious, superconscious, id, etc.). I've seldom bothered to wander around the spirit world when projecting, preferring to stay inside my own head, and when I do I don't feel capable of moving very far.

In the past people have (of course) immediately lashed out at me saying things either along the lines of “that’s ridiculous” or “that’s wrong”. My attitude towards these:
RIDICULOUS: Typically this is said by people who simply don’t believe ANYTHING spiritual or mystical or whatever exists beyond the reach of science. To them I say… I’m relieved that they exist, that there are people who feel this. I myself acknowledge that my own spirituality and experience of the so-called “spirit plane” do sound rather absurd, if not downright ludicrous. I would feel deeply frightened and disturbed actually if everyone I told this to were to believe it without questioning. :P
WRONG: From people who either roleplay, or people who might have had different experiences or views of the subject. To them I say that, logically, since only I am able to see my own mind from the inside, that there’s no way they could know better than I what it looks like. As for what’s outside my head, I don’t presume to know the whole spirit realm overall and personally don’t think anyone else can truthfully claim to do so.
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[dragonflame]

I, personally, think that the spirit world is something not to meddle with with ease, and may be dangerous, and I just tend to stay off of it before it meddles with me.

(think of this: why not? a human comes looking in and you've got the advantage, so you misguide him/her to get your own profit from it.)

short explaination of what I think. (<- I do not know all the facts because I'm currently 13 years old and generally don't study these things, as I said, I stay off it, especially because I'm christian. <- I don't deny that the spirit world exists, I'm just not wanting to touch it)

[Shadow Dragon]

I am glad you metioned the dangers actually, dragonflame, because that is more or less exactly what I want to know. In life, the bigger risk one takes, the bigger the reward or the larger the fall. I have no doubt the Christian faith would tend to steer clear of such things, surely with good reason on your behalf. However, I am not of an ordained belief so sticking my face into the pit of snakes may seem silly, it is something that I personally need to do. But there is no sense in not being cautious, so I thank you agian for bringing it up.

I have not personally seen any actual 'plane', but I won't deny its existance, so please go in more depth Hyraxylos if you can. I am not really talking about licid dreaming though. I do believe dreams do have some spiritual significance, but they are usually come and go or manipulated far more by reality than they hold their own.
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Here I lay, my claws and tail at peace. I rest my eyes and begin to sleep. Dreams fill my visions as mankind has fallen and dragons rule again.

[Hyraxylos]

[Shadow Dragon]

I guess then you have the added luck (should I really say luck from that description?) of having another beside you. It sounds awfully push and pull between you two, but I am sure for his own presurvation he has your back. You said he was like your "guide" in a way, maybe not so much as pointing directly, but I get that since Master is there you have that strive to...continue? That you know you are something, that something is inside you that...I don't know how to say it, but you get what I mean.

What would you suggest for someone who is lacking that? Someone who is spiritually alone?
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Here I lay, my claws and tail at peace. I rest my eyes and begin to sleep. Dreams fill my visions as mankind has fallen and dragons rule again.

[Hyraxylos]

Yup, I’m lucky all right. And yes, even though my Master tries to be an obstacle in my life I still figured out how he can be useful. All I have to do is oppose his “advice”. ^^
But otherkin as a whole don’t need someone else to tell them what they are. The “dark” me might have a separate will of his own (for now), but we DO still have the same identity. Thus talking with him is pretty much the same as talking to myself. Try that. Gather up everything you currently know about the spiritual “you”, maybe write it down somewhere, and start developing possibilities of what could fill in the blanks.
Most importantly though (at least for me it was), is to question yourself occasionally. At some point, ATTEMPT to deny absolutely everything except “I exist”, as a means of challenging your faith. Never fear to be proven wrong in anything. If you uncover information that disproves part of your belief, then replace that belief with the new one that disproved it. It’s a bit similar to the Scientific Method, ironically.
This is only the strategy that worked for me though and might not work for others. I’m just throwing it out here for consideration. :3
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[Shadow Dragon]

Well, that is just it. I don't know what to believe. At first it was the thoughts of if I am dragon, then there is something deep within. That spiritual essence that takes on a dragonic form would be there to greet, guide, or at least present itself.

However, during a truely deep meditation I did not find such a thing. I did not find anything, except a cold dark void that pulled my mind into its nothingness. It was terrifying, an undescribable fear that ripped me from the trance. I felt I lost a piece of myself in that void, something was definately missing... My desire. I had no longer had any desire to become dragon...though I felt more so in body. Like people should not desire to be other people when they can work to be something better on their own, dragons should not desire to be dragons.

It is hard to explain, but that lack of presence made me believe in myself that much more and yet now that I know I'm on my own...I don't know what I can really look for within, around, or seperate from myself in that foggy black soup.
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Here I lay, my claws and tail at peace. I rest my eyes and begin to sleep. Dreams fill my visions as mankind has fallen and dragons rule again.