Being a vegetarian

[ZucaTreangeli]

Being a vegitarian.. The dictionary says this:

a person who does not eat or does not believe in eating meat, fish, fowl, or, in some cases, any food derived from animals, as eggs or cheese, but subsists on vegetables, fruits, nuts, grain, etc.


In this there is no reason given as to why a person would become a vegitarian, needless to say I don't want to discuss about those that have a disease or a condition that causes them to react badly to food like meat or fish.

I specifically wanna debate on people who say it is "sad because animals get hurt a lot".

I can't understand how people can say they wont eat meat because its sad for the animals, but at the same time use medicine that has been tested on animals and have caused the death of animals.

I want to make it clear that I have no problem with both and I want to ask how someone can justify feeling specifically bad about animals that are slaughtered for food but have no problem with the animals that are slaughtered for medicine.. Despite the fact that that process is a lot slower and in many cases a lot more painfull.

So if there are any vegitarians with that motive.. Defend your cause
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[Granamyr]

The simplest reply for me would be this...those who justify one type of suffering over another are not being consistent. That of course is something they may or may not be aware of.

Concern for animals should universal whether "food animals" or "lab animals"

Most people I've met who choose this lifestyle *are* consistent or at least try to be in their own lives. Which, sadly, is very hard. (I was a strict Vegan and hope to return to that lifestyle as soon as I can.)

I was Vegan because I oppose the unnecessary cruelty and suffering animals endure. I am not opposed to eating meat or other animal products as a matter of principle. I am modern Pagan and believe very much in the way of Nature. Man has just as much right to eat flesh as the other animals who choose it. It's *how* we do it that I think needs an overhaul as well as our overall attitude toward animals.
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[TigressoftheWind]

I'm not a vegetarian, and I disapprove highly of animal cruelty. However, I do believe that animal testing should be allowed on the basis of treating illnesses and finding cures for diseases, not cosmetics and candy.

Also, I do believe that there is a big difference between animal cruelty and killing animals (such as cows, chickens, fish, the usual produce we find in grocery stores). Animal cruelty, in my opinion, consists of human beings torturing and brutalizing animals for pleasure or neglect. Killing animals...if it's swift, fast and painless, then I don't quite disapprove of it.
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[Hyraxylos]

I too would prefer that some vegetarians and vegans wouldn’t attempt to proselytize at those of us who are content with the diet that humans naturally adapted to. I’ve heard that stupid sentence “meat is murder” far too often coming from just one person, and pointed out too repeatedly that plants are living things too, that plants are responsible for letting us BREATHE, and that plants were here first.
Fortunately I’ve only had to deal with one person like this. All other vegetarians I’ve met have said that they simply “don’t like meat”. They can’t explain it beyond that—that they just don’t LIKE eating meat, and I can certainly respect that.
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[Nezdragon]

I have no problem if someone decides to exclude certain food groups from their diet. I do have a problem when they think that everyone should follow their beliefs. If you believe that 'meat is murder', keep in mind that others may not share your same beliefs. On that subject, saying 'meat is murder' may be true, but then you must also examine your own dietary practices. Plants are alive, and yet you kill them for food too. No matter what you try to do, you will be killing something in order to survive. It's the way the world works.
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[Hyraxylos]

Almost exactly what I said. *high-fives*
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[Celtore]

I know several people who, for some reason, just don't like meat. Be it taste, texture, or whatever, they just don't like it. I use to be one of them, actually, when I was a few years younger. I never liked eating any kind of meat besides chicken. Beef always tasted stringy, dry, and bitter. But later, I found out that it's because every time my mom cooked or ordered meat, it was well done. And not just normal well done, either: I mean well done to the point of charcoal. (For some reason, Mom likes it only this way. She doesn't want to see any pink in her meat, whatsoever.) I'm still not very fond of pork or roasts, though. Pork just tastes funny, and the texture of roasts is sometimes enough to make me gag.

Vegetarians don't typically annoy me when they don't only apply it to their food, but also to other products. A girl I went to school with never ate meat from the time she was able to eat solid food. She and her mother often told a story that every time she was given meat, she'd throw it on the floor. However, she not only avoided eating meat, but she refused to use products that had been tested on animals. Her argument was that if she was going to spare animals in one aspect of her life, it would be stupid to condemn them in something else.

One thing that bothers me about this thread, though, is that this topic does not mention that there are multiple types of vegetarians. Depending on the type, they may feel differently on certain things discussed here. These are not all the types, and there are certainly "crossovers," as well as vegetarians who don't fit into a category at all.

Lacto-ovo vegetarian: No meat, fish, or poultry, but eats eggs, dairy, honey

Lacto: No meat, fish, poultry, or eggs; eats dairy, honey

Ovo: No meat, fish, poultry, or dairy; eats eggs, honey

Vegan: No meat, fish, poultry, dairy, eggs, or honey

Fruitarian: only fruit, nuts, seeds, and other plant matter that can be gathered

Macrobiotic: mostly whole grains and beans. Some consume fish.

Natural hygiene: mostly raw vegan foods

Raw veganism: fresh and uncooked fruit, nuts, seeds, and vegetables

Dietary veganism: Those who restrict veganism only to their diet.

Freeganism: Avoid buying anything, including food. Will forage or garden for food.

Semi-vegetarianism: The only animal meat consumed is the occasional seafood or poultry.

Pescetarianism: Only animals consumed are fish or seafood.

Pollotarianism: Only animals consumed are fowl and poultry.

Flexitarianism: Diet that consists primarily of vegetarian food, but that allows occasional exceptions.