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RamenDemon
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 Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 12:52 Post subject: Death Penalty |
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Hey i just wanted to know what the internet thinks of the death penalty.
I think it's unethical, cruel, and evil but i still allow it. It's because we spend thousands of dollars just for the basic needs of every single inmates. I think using the death penalty on special cases might dissuade potential criminals,murderers, and thieves into a life of crime. Really, just hire some people who ain't sqeamish and take an axe to a couple hundre- err 2 people.  I want to know your opinions or debates on this matter.
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gcdm
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 13:50 Post subject: |
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i agree, but forget the ax, bring out ol' shocky.
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Ragnarok
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 17:57 Post subject: Re: Death Penalty |
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| RamenDemon wrote: |
| I think it's unethical, cruel, and evil but i still allow it. It's because we spend thousands of dollars just for the basic needs of every single inmates. |
It's unethical, cruel and evil, but full speed ahead anyway? Saving money justifies unethical, cruel and evil treatment?
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| think using the death penalty on special cases might dissuade potential criminals,murderers, and thieves into a life of crime. Really, just hire some people who ain't sqeamish and take an axe to a couple hundre- err 2 people. I want to know your opinions or debates on this matter. |
There is no evidence to suggest that the death penalty has a deterrent effect. This chart, which compares the murder rates in DP and non-DP states indicates that DP states have higher murder rates. Even in the studies which claim to show that it has a deterrent effect (of between 3 and 30-something fewer homicides per execution) have to deal with the fact that homicide rates are variable year-to-year and there are very few executions carried out in any given year.
Now for my own views. As you can probably tell, I'm against it, for a couple very simple reasons.
1: There is no deterrent effect, and the death penalty may even act as a negative deterrent (i.e. increases the unwanted behavior).
2: Unlike life sentences, there's no way to reverse an execution. There have been cases where people on death row have been found to be innocent, especially with the advent of DNA testing. They were still waiting to be executed, so they managed to get released, but what if they had been executed before that? You can release a wrongfully-imprisoned person, but you can't unexecute someone.
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RamenDemon
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 18:00 Post subject: |
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you forget something. THE HUGE COSTS just to keep a single inmate locked good and tight.
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Ragnarok
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 18:20 Post subject: |
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I asked a question regarding that at the top of my post. However, if your only argument is that the death penalty saves money, you have no argument.
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Dragoneyes
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Why not an eye for an eye ? If you kill somebody and you are convicted of it you should pay for it. I've seen it on the T.V. to many times. They kill again in prison. Kill them all. ....
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Ragnarok
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| Posted: Mon 18 Feb 2008 20:23 Post subject: |
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| Dragoneyes wrote: |
| Why not an eye for an eye ? |
Should all crimes be treated in this way, or just murder. If just murder, why the exception?
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RamenDemon
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funny i remember seeing this eye for an eye concept in an essay i corrected at school... he was so bad.... he kept repeated it exactly 13 times... something ill never forget. it was last friday 
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