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Dragoneyes
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Mar 2008 21:55    Post subject: Good verses Evil.... Reply with quote

I'm writing this because I've been accused of being evil because I am dragon. My house has dragons all over it and yes I do like bands like AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Kiss, you know the "Devils music". How can dragons be part of Satanism? All though in my 49yrs. on this planet I have seen a satanic mass. I don't consider that my religion in fact I don't claim any.
Anyway this preacher who's kid attends my gymnastic gym basically said that dragons are the spawn of the devil... I tried to explain that dragons where here long before the so called devil was even around.
Which brings me to my topic... Why are dragons considered evil to religious people and how can you change the label we seem to have? I know people consider anything evil that they can't figure out. Anyway does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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starwing
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008 7:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragons aren't considered evil in all cultures, for example the Oriental dragons but in the western society, dragons are seen as fire breathing, treasure hoarding, maiden eaters who are at least as long as your average bus. They are associated to serpents which many people are scared of anyway. In the old days people used to go out 'slaying dragons', but of course they didn't see any so they came back to their towns and brewed tales of evil human eaters who would destroy whole villages using fiery breath just to make them sound heroic.
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Namhias
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008 15:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dragons are not evil or good by nature, it would depend on the dragon's actions. The idea that a whole species is good or evil is just silly.
I don't really know why dragons are considered evil in some religions, I haven't read any religious text to give you an answer on this. But I think there is a reference to a dragon in the bible (well, at least a vague description) and I think the bible states that he is evil... I don't know about other religions though...
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Dragons Creed
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008 16:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bible does state a dragon and it being evil, however it is just a metaphor used to get people to understand what is being written. My youth group instructor explained it like that. It was also said that, being a metaphor, it is just an idea to go off of. I'm sure Drakhaon, my sister, can remember what I left out xP Instead they said that since the Dragon image in the Bible is a metaphor, envisioning any dragon is fine. They are not evil at all. It was just that in those times, they had to create a universal image that people could associate "evil" with.

To change the view, I would just say do what my instructor said: Keep believing in dragons no matter what others say. I do not know about other religions, so this is all I can come up with. Just my take on things =)
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Samariyu
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Mar 2008 17:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm religious, and I don't think you're evil. Some people, like the so called 'pastor' you met, take Biblical metaphors too literaly. Those are generally the hypocritical-listen-to-songs-sit-in- church-and-never-do-anything-outside-of-their-comfort-zone-to-help-others types of Christians. They are Christian in name only and don't understand Christianity's true meaning. Guys like him give the rest of us a bad name, then the rest of the world judges us to be the same as him! Don't let what he says get to you, he's just high on himself.
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Hyraxylos
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2008 6:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember Cyborg Dragon had this same problem on another forum... Crying or Very sad

Fundamentalists try to associate "dragon" with "serpent" and I suppose that a snake with legs (in the old myth, the Serpent DID have legs remember?) would kinda resemble... but I don't think it's THAT much of a resemblance. Confused Beyond that, having a negative attitude toward real actual dragons for non-religious reasons is actually understandable. Read my post about how I’d react to a real dragon suddenly appearing within close proximity.
One of my nicknames in my past life when addressed by humans consisted exclusively of the letter ‘A’. It was a fitting description of a thirty-foot lizard with huge pointy implements on the feet and in the mouth, a thick impenetrable layer of armored scale, inexplicably combustible breath, and a hyperactive mischievous attitude that I still have now. The fact that I only ate idiotic bandits with death-wishes and brainless knights who had too much free time didn’t matter; the other humans recognized only that I ate people. It wasn’t much different actually from the reasons other animals had for fearing me. Eating habits aside, I simply enjoyed scaring people because it was entertaining. Twisted
…But that’s not really fair to the species as a whole is it? Sad Just because I myself enjoyed terrorizing superstitious Christians in my past life and in the high school years of my current life (maybe I’ll start a thread on that sometime like I did at Draconity.org), that doesn’t mean it’s logical to judge ALL otherkin that way and hearing about this sort of thing irritates me. People like to generalize and cling to irrational myths that apply only to a few out of a large population because they’re lazy and they’ve been taught to fear curiosity. Fear of curiosity leads to willful ignorance, and that results in the kind of treatment fundies dish out.
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boondoxjuggalo
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2008 13:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

beacuse in our society today with most older religions dying out and christianity taking over the things pagans belived and held in high regard or fear are being asumed to be the work of the devil and there fore where as said above to be evil.
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Dragons Creed
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Mar 2008 17:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyraxylos wrote:
People like to generalize and cling to irrational myths that apply only to a few out of a large population because they’re lazy and they’ve been taught to fear curiosity.



I do not think it is fear of curiosity. I think people just like to believe what information is fed to them, which is laziness. To me, fear comes into play when they see that it is possible and then try to ignore it.
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