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Shiari
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Aug 2008 19:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't consider it restrictive or awkward at all. It's *correct* for vertebrates on this planet, and common sense to a degree. The sail that attaches to the body is most important for lift. If air escapes there, you're going to either not fly at all, or suffer from HBS (hanging butt syndrome) due to the fact that a dragon's rear is going to be *heavy* and needs extra support.

It's no different from stretchy skin. Cat's don't find it restrictive to have relatively loose and stretchy skin, and thus no different for a dragon one would assume. It doesn't affect movement or flexibility, just improves lift. Even in birds, while the feathers do not "attach" to the body, the innermost wing feathers stay lined up with the body.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Sep 2008 12:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my own take on the necessity of a wing membrane that extends to the tail, or at least, its hind quarters. Consider the oriental styling of dragons. Most of these don't even have wings, but they still manage to fly. You may accredit this to magics. You could say that because of the oriental dragons magic there is no need for them to even have wings. Now consider the European dragon, it has a very large body, probably brought about by a need to defend themselves from people that don't understand them. To make up for this, they gain wings to help, not as a means but as a crutch. They still use there own, if less powerful, magic to keep balanced, but use their wings for actual flight. No reason for an extended wing membrane unless they cannot utilize their magic to keep them aloft.
Please correct me if my statement is off base.
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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008 15:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't want to see the third Mummy movie upon seeing and realizing that the Dragon in the movie wasn't a real Dragon, but rather a rather vicious looking Hydra. From what I saw of the trailers of that movie, the only way any of us Dragons can move that fast is one has the ability to manipulate space and time. A two or so headed Dragon doesn't exist. We only have one head, hence why I believe that movie had a Hydra in it. The described body features, it is possible for some of us Dragons to have evolved to have body features that support enhanced flight, Magickal powers, and or intelligence. I'm not a fan of any movie where we Dragons are portrayed as mindless killing machines who are bent on destroying all life and everything else in the Universe, especially, everyone and everything on this planet. However I'll continue to stick with the Hollywood Dragon as the same exact model as it is with the Hollywood Werewolf. It's all lies, maybe with the occasional truth here and there, that's designed to scare the masses into being entertained and scaring them. This is why the very first Werewolf in the Wolf Man didn't look all that scary, but if you look at modern Hollywood Werewolves, they're all so very menacing, and evil looking. The Hollywood Creatures are merely evolving to become more money producers than being factual. Now if we Dragons came back in real life, that'd be completely different.

Now about us Dragons in general. I deeply believe that most humans and Otherkin alike won't be able to see any real life Dragons even if a real WereDragon were to show him or herself to someone. Why? It's simple really. If you remember hearing or reading about the early T model Fords back in the late 1800's to early 1900's, you'll know that many people weren't accepting of them. In fact most people back then wanted them to go away. They were very noisy, scared the horses, and polluted lots. That and back then the gasoline infrastructure wasn't in place so that added to refueling problems. The same goes for two guys who are in a math class studying high level stuff. One guy may be able to see the answer in his head and be able to demostrate how he came to that conclusion, yet while the other guy would be unable to figure out how the other guy figured the answer. In fact be unable to see anything to the problem other than the symbols and numbers before him. The reason why I bring this point up is being able to see, and comprehend what you see are two completely different things. The reason behind this is, if you have the right mindset you'll be able to see things most others can't. Hence the first guy in the math class was able to see the answer to the math problem while the other guy wasn't. It dealt with his mindset.

So if you're in the right mindset, which would lead to being guineunely open minded, you'd be able to see things most others can't. If you need another example, try to think of Stephen Hawkins. Most others can't comprehend the level of Science he's at. Anyone else would see the series of numbers and symbols for his equations just as they are, not for what they represent and lead to.

Another note is, we Dragons are the most evolved lifeforms in the Universe. So why not we, and other species that's come to this planet to either colonize and or peaceful purposes, use holographic technologies, and or Magicks? I remember as a Dragon being on many planets that dealt with Technomancy, Magick, and even Technology, like this planet is. So instead of trying to say this or that's impossible, why not try for an open mind?

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PostPosted: Tue 07 Oct 2008 18:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

DelecheteDareston wrote:
The Hollywood Creatures are merely evolving to become more money producers than being factual.


It's rather difficult to be factual about a creature that only exists in human mythology.

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I deeply believe that most humans and Otherkin alike won't be able to see any real life Dragons even if a real WereDragon were to show him or herself to someone.


I'm of a similar mindset, but I think the reason why no one will see a dragon on this planet is because they're not here.

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If you remember hearing or reading about the early T model Fords back in the late 1800's to early 1900's, you'll know that many people weren't accepting of them.


Maybe not, but if one drove by, it would be seen as what it was.

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One guy may be able to see the answer in his head and be able to demostrate how he came to that conclusion, yet while the other guy would be unable to figure out how the other guy figured the answer.


That's a difference in knowledge and understanding, not in perceiving reality.
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The reason why I bring this point up is being able to see, and comprehend what you see are two completely different things.


I'd argue that the difference is comprehension and knowledge, as opposed to just a "mindset." You can have whatever mindset you want, but without the knowledge, you still won't see anything.

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So if you're in the right mindset, which would lead to being guineunely open minded, you'd be able to see things most others can't.

See in the literal sense (Model T), or in the figurative sense (solutions)?

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Another note is, we Dragons are the most evolved lifeforms in the Universe.


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Oct 2008 18:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

DelecheteDareston wrote:
A two or so headed Dragon doesn't exist.


so, why can't a dragon have two heads? wouldn't it just be a chimera dragon, and not a different species altogether??
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 3:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so, why can't a dragon have two heads?



Yes why can't a dragon have more then one head?
Well possibly they might not get along. Anyway it is possible for a
Hydra to exist. Who knows perhaps it is the result of some kind of formality. I have seen dragons with two heads or more at one point or another, but we have our own perspectives and I respect that.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 9:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonwriterX wrote:
Anyway it is possible for a
Hydra to exist.


It's happened with snakes, and though uncommon, such deformities are not unheard of, even in humans.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Oct 2008 9:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ragnarok wrote:
such deformities are not unheard of, even in humans.


Case in point, it is not totally unheard of for a twin to be completely absorbed by its other, thus my usage of the term "chimera" for that. It would be like having two dragon's formed in one egg, but instead of a complete absorption, only a partial, leaving two heads, but one body.
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