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Hyraxylos
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jun 2008 14:56    Post subject: A strange dynamic. Reply with quote

Yet another of life's little mysteries that's been eating away at me. Just about every forum about every subject of every size occasionally has to deal with certain...... pests. Large communities, such as YouTube and DeviantART, are filled with trolls of many varieties who spill strange ill-timed flame posts. Vampire forums (and to a lesser extent otherkin forums) get unwelcome visits from roleplayers. In online games, troublesome individuals vary widely in nature from racist ignorami to over-talkative 10-year-olds. Out of ALL of this I've discovered one startling thing they all share in common.

Why do they all write as if they've never used Roman characters before in their lives? Seriously. y du thay rite lik ths? If one's in a hurry or they haven't written formally in a very long time before joining a public forum, then of course it's reasonable for the occasional misspelling, non-capitalized first letter of a sentence, and mild punctuation errors. occasionaly making a mstake here & there in a MMORPG is understandable to becuz ppl r always in a hurry.
bt hou du the mnge 2 degnr8 2 thhiss dgreee? (English translation: But how do they manage to degenerate to this degree?) I don't understand at all because this was taught to me when I was six years old and was never allowed to sink out of my skull afterwards. Do these people all go through their lives never reading any books, essays, or news articles?? I'm not complaining that much because the bright side is that the poor syntax really does help to recognize when someone shouldn't be taken seriously, but why are they all like that? It's so bizarre...
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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jun 2008 15:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to think it is a simple answer. They are just trying to annoy people and cause problems. What better way then to be rude and mispell every single word they type? I have seen some who actually type normally, but then what they say is just as bad as typing in "short hand."
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2008 15:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's just rude. Everybody knows how to write properly, it's ok to make errors, but that is just pushing it. I think it was created at one point to give those people the illusion that this would be a faster way of communication. (less characters = less time spend ?) That, or they're doing it to impress other people...
I think it should be deleted on sight by anyone who has the power to do that. Not only is hard to translate sometimes, it makes the person who writes it seem like an idiot.
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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jun 2008 20:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see flamers as people who use arguements as a way of stress relief manner to let out anger. I don't know why they don't take the time to backspace to fix there spelling are grammer. I myself somtimes find myself missing a mistake but never talking like a 'WoW junkie'.


Sometimes certain MMORPG's don't have a type cursor and people can not go back to a word they misspelled. (E.G. Runescape) Other games you find might be the case. When Voice chat is enabled you still hear ten year olds butchering the english language. (e.g. Halo and COD4) This would mean that the person speaking his in anger meaning he being destoryed in the game and his taking it out on other players. (such as and I qoute "J'ou Homo, I kill you in real life you ****ing haxor!" I was playing Battlefield 2 when this was delivered)


Most of the time though you find poilte humans that know how to talk and type. I find alot of these in games that use alot of brain power and are complicated you tend to see fewer of these flamers. (e.g EVE-Online) I'm not calling these people dumb but they seem to play games that are simple and you get to shoot a really big gun,.
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jun 2008 12:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although this may be a misconception from "back in the day," I remember back when being able to type like that was an indication of how great you were on the internet. By being able to type like that and understand it, you were demonstrating your "l33t" status on the relativly early public internet and separating yourself from the "this can't possibly have that much use" group. It was like any other type of group specific jargon.
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jun 2008 4:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Although this may be a misconception from "back in the day," I remember back when being able to type like that was an indication of how great you were on the internet.


Ah yes, that familiar snooty attitude... Mad Hence the reason it was called "1337speak".
"Hey listen to me, I'm 15 years old and I'm not at all fluent in even ONE language in existence! How great and wonderful I am! Durrrrrrrrrr!" d'oh! I saw irritation arise very quickly towards that all over the Internet though. I would guess people were mostly getting irritated trying to figure out the logic behind having pride in being incomprehensible.
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec 2008 1:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorrt to burst all of your bubbles; but, for some reason they think it's cool. On the other hand about a month or two ago I was roaming around Wal-mart, which is sadly one of the few stores open all night here in Bellingham, I found a book that was written * insert horrifyied gasp here* entierly in chatspeek! supposidly it was a "novel" aimed at teens and Intentionaly written as though it were a series of text messages between three friends. I hardly found it worth of calling a novel. In fact I read somewhere that at the rate the majority of scociety is going... we may be the archaic ones in about 15-20 years; what i find even worse is that in some educational institutions it is becomming acceptable to write you papers up to the 2nd draft or so in chatspeek.

discusting isn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec 2008 20:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

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supposidly it was a "novel" aimed at teens and Intentionaly written as though it were a series of text messages between three friends.

Absolute ugh. It sounds like someone has deluded themselves into thinking they can make the next "Catcher in the Rye". Mad

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In fact I read somewhere that at the rate the majority of scociety is going... we may be the archaic ones in about 15-20 years; what i find even worse is that in some educational institutions it is becomming acceptable to write you papers up to the 2nd draft or so in chatspeek.

I have good news: there's absolutely 0% chance that this could ever happen. Smile It's unusual for me to be absolutely certain of anything, but if what you're saying is true then "1337speek" should be much more widespread and overwhelming than it is. I don't see it on World of Warcraft or any other online game (though my scope is limited), I don't see it overrunning SDB, and I most definitely can't envision someone in a college getting any higher than a flat F in a graded paper.
The reason that this nonsense-language won't take over is because it's completely incomprehensible, and as such it undermines the purpose of language. Over these past eons, our species has evolved in a direction towards building up communication and understanding between one another; in other words, chatspeak becoming the norm would qualify as "de-evolution", and wouldn't last very long.
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