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Hyraxylos
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| I think that if McCain were elected presedent he'd lose his mind at some point. Seeing as how he was a Prisoner of War in Vietnam. |
No, that's Fox News talking. It was one of the things the Republicans cranked out about him in 2000 among such other falsehoods as... let's see... They said that he'd secretly turned traitor on us and became a communist, and they said he'd had an affair and fathered a black child. So Dubya won the Republican nomination unfortunately. 
For the record I don't support McCain at all. I wish he'd become President eight years ago but now he's acting more like a replica of our current President than he did before, and I do feel that Dubya is the worst we've ever had. Don't get me wrong, I really think McCain's a good man, but... what the hell do we need ANOTHER war for!? Our military is exhausted, we deliberately (WARNING! Hyraxylean Conspiracy Theory ahead!) stepped aside in Afghanistan and allowed the leader of Al-Qaeda to escape when we should have gotten him there, and we're completely broke!
Thusfar the only thing I have against Obama is that he's a member of a political party, and political parties are all corrupt and immoral organizations that don't care about helping people if there's no profit in doing so. But that's a pretty weak downside to have against a candidate isn't it?  I've recently gotten around to looking through bills that he's sponsored and am seeing things like "withdraw from Iraq", "fix our infrastructure", "Zimbabwe's government sucks", "remove poisonous stuff from workplaces", "honor the achievements of famous black people", and "the White Sox kick ***".
I'm seeing more than a few political statements that I personally agree with, some here and there I feel neutral towards, and (being a Braves supporter) only one statement I oppose. Well, maybe only half on that one; the Braves seem to alternate between being awesome and horrible and I'm rambling again. *bangs head on wall* Anyhow, yes. I support Obama.
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Eric Near
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Honestly, I don't think it matters who becomes president. It seems like they're both going to do the same thing. A few reasons I wouldn't want Obama as president is because he's quick to changing himself (religion [from muslim to some other Christianity], political plans dealing with foreign affairs [being his plan to keep troops in Iraq which goes completely against the ways of democrats], and his decision to partner up with Al Gore [whom withdrew from the last election even though he had over 500,000 more of the popular vote in the elections]). I can't find myself supporting the campaign of someone so spontaneous, who makes terrible decisions, and is so quick to change just to get the people's votes.
McCain, I can't support either because like Obama, he is also quick to change. After realizing that his current platform wasn't winning the people over, he began to use a tactic called "mudslinging" to defame and discredit Obama. As the Sunday paper used words such as "...satirical..." and "...sarcastic statements towards his oponent, Obama..." The Colbert Report showed a political news bulletine broadcasting McCains statement, "I have more experience than Obama..." or something to that effect. The Colbert Report then showed another clip in which McCain said, "You cannot judge me based on my past only the present..." or something to that effect. Well, since experience comes from past events then exactly why does he always say he has more experience than Obama when he already stated we can't judge him based on that. And since the present changes about every second then we have to give him a clean slate every second. Either that or judge him based on what he says he's going to do or in other words base it off of his future which we can't do. And one more reason is that his plans for all the nooks and crannies that are the American politics and domestics are completely the same as Bush's whom I'm pretty sure no one supports anymore. Plus, being a republican, he would keep our troops in Iraq for no reason making taxes and gas prices continue to skyrocket so the Federal system has to create more U.S. dollars in order to keep up with the market, thus making the price of the American dollar diminish even more, which doesn't really matter because the price of the U.S. dollar is four cents anyway. Then we have to make more money for war bonds we still haven't payed off dating back to the Vietnam War. As Stephen Colbert put it, "That is absolutely Iraq-rosanct."
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Ragnarok
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| Posted: Fri 11 Jul 2008 20:34 Post subject: |
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| Eric Near wrote: |
| [from muslim to some other Christianity] |
He was never a Muslim.
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| political plans dealing with foreign affairs [being his plan to keep troops in Iraq which goes completely against the ways of democrats] |
A fast withdrawal would be disastrous, better to have a well thought out one.
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| decision to partner up with Al Gore [whom withdrew from the last election even though he had over 500,000 more of the popular vote in the elections] |
Gore wasn't in the 2004 elections.
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DarkDragon
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| Posted: Sat 12 Jul 2008 20:13 Post subject: |
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| I think that if McCain were elected presedent he'd lose his mind at some point. Seeing as how he was a Prisoner of War in Vietnam. |
If he was going to do that, he would probably have shown signs of it before now. |
Seeing as he not only survived being a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton, but came out with his mind intact. That says something for his discipline.
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Eric Near
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| Posted: Sun 13 Jul 2008 8:59 Post subject: |
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| Ragnarok wrote: |
| Eric Near wrote: |
| [from muslim to some other Christianity] |
He was never a Muslim.
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| political plans dealing with foreign affairs [being his plan to keep troops in Iraq which goes completely against the ways of democrats] |
A fast withdrawal would be disastrous, better to have a well thought out one.
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| decision to partner up with Al Gore [whom withdrew from the last election even though he had over 500,000 more of the popular vote in the elections] |
Gore wasn't in the 2004 elections. |
Sorry I need to make a few corrections and I actually am ashamed to say that I went with the hype on that christianity thing but I do know that he changed religions. And I don't disagree with the troops staying in Iraq as a means of security but it goes completely against the democratic platform which is what I was aiming for in that statement. I wasn't saying I was against what he decided just that it shows he's trying to change just to get a more votes. And the last one was a brain fart on my part. I actually meant the 2000 election. That one was my mistake. Sorry for the confusion. But I wasn't trying to get across that Obama's decision regarding Iraq was wrong or right, what I was saying there was that he's too quick to change for the wrong reasons and I don't want to have a president that's so unstable. That's all I'm saying.
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Hyraxylos
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| Posted: Thu 17 Jul 2008 8:13 Post subject: |
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| but I do know that he changed religions. |
He was technically registered AS a Muslim for the record at an early age (very early) when he enrolled in a Christian school, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was ever Muslim.
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| And I don't disagree with the troops staying in Iraq as a means of security but it goes completely against the democratic platform which is what I was aiming for in that statement. |
When did he say that he would never ever get our troops out? As far as I can tell only McCain has stated he wanted us to stay in Iraq for "100 years if need be".
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| what I was saying there was that he's quick to change for the wrong reasons and I don't want to have a president that's so unstable. |
This is what people said about John Kerry, that he "flip-flopped too much". But examination of the effects Bush had on our country from 2004 to 2008 reveals we probably would have been better off with Kerry.
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