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Hyraxylos
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 Posted: Tue 04 Nov 2008 8:33 Post subject: WoW you're annoying... |
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So I started playing World of Warcraft again some time ago for the first time in over about a year, albeit on a different server and away from an annoying cult that had taken to worshipping me for no good reason. It's a pretty good game, but as it's online and there's a lot to it, there's almost no limit to what can go wrong, and it's of course Blizzard's top priority to maximize that list to the fullest extent of their ability. Such as changing my ability to Shadowmeld (useful for AFK) from a ten-second cooldown to a two-minute cooldown. Master even recently predicted what he believed the final patch for the game would entail:
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| World of Warcraft, Version 5.?.?? (four expansions) |
<notice about the final boss here; I won't say anything beyond that if you know the whole storyline you should be able to make a pretty good guess>
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All players lower than Level 90 are now forbidden to carry money. They will still be able to pick it up, but doing so below Level 90 is now a bannable offense. Asking why is also a bannable offense.
All spells other than Warlock spells have been reduced to 1% effectiveness and cost twice the previous amount of mana.
The Warlock's Fear spell now kills instantly and cannot be resisted.
Druids specializing in Feral combat are now able to ban members of their current party from the game.
Anyone speaking in the Trade Channel of cities about any subject at all will be reported.
Players will no longer be able to move while wearing armor heavier than cloth.
Jumping is now impossible on slanted surfaces. To jump you must be standing on perfectly flat ground.
Out of respect to Nigeria, the names of all nations of the world are now bleeped out as well by the profanity filter. |
I feel rather certain that my id may have been exagerrating... just a little.  What he makes references to however are based on just a few annoying aspects of an otherwise great game. Here are some things I'd like to rant about for what's probably my 652nd rant online by now.
1. The Lich King. Actually this is more of a "Warcraft" complaint than a WoW one; I just think the character is too much of a Mary Sue of a villain. Arthas got away with an awful lot in Warcraft 3 and didn't get killed off when he should have. Twice.
2. Little kids who whisper to you that you've been "Reported." after saying the word "dang" in the Trade channel.
3. Stranglethorn Vale General Chat on the Alliance side (especially at night), and (of course) Barrens General Chat on the Horde side.
4. Silent party members. I'm not talking about friends who just don't feel like talking at the moment; I'm talking about strangers you group with temporarily. This has happened to me only four times, but every time it was a little unsettling. Someone would invite me. I'd then ask if s/he needed help with something, and would receive no response. Instead, the other player just ran around killing things or whatever, never uttering a word of what he wanted from me. I even explain to them that they need to press the ENTER button to make a message box appear and THEN type stuff in and press ENTER again to actually say it; it was all to no avail. Creepiest of all was the last guy who did this; he didn't even go kill boars or anything but just stood there STARING at me. Very unsettling.
5. People using letters in their names that aren't part of the Roman alphabet. This isn't just eye-rolling, it's actually an obstacle. The game distinguishes between the letter e and the letter ệ, which of course doesn't appear on the keyboard and can't be typed in to search or /friend or whatever. This happens with guild names as well--there's a guild on my server called "Đêlêo Právus" or something, which has quite a few obnoxious high-level players that I've taken to referring to among my friends as the "Deli Privates".  It should be made illegal, and this is one of very few occasions that I assert that something legal should be made illegal rather than the other way around.
6. "Closed zones". It used to be possible (albeit difficult) to get into Mt. Hyjal and see the most beautiful scenery in the whole game. Now it isn't, because of a script that teleports you right back out the moment you get in. Oh well... there's always private servers I guess.
7. Druids complaining about being "nerfed", or weakened to make things fair for the other job classes. This isn't actually NEARLY as much of a problem now as it once was, but at one point druids were better at being warriors than warriors were. I'm a druid, and I can give firsthand testimony that without exception ALL druids (including myself) get ahead by cheating, hitting below the belt, and stooping to cowardly tactics that rogues wouldn't touch. We're especially talented at running away. I won't say we're "overpowered" necessarily, but as versatile as we are we certainly don't need to complain about being weakened either unless it's something really extreme.
8. Bossy healers. Holy-specialized priests were particularly obnoxious in older days though not so much anymore. They always needed to learn the hard way why it wasn't a good idea to make the party's tank angry, especially if it's a druid who doesn't rely upon someone else for healing.
9. Players who don't understand the logic behind the "Need Before Greed" system the game uses to distribute loot and why it's important to hit the "Greed" button unless the item in question being rolled for is specifically tailored to them.
10. Auctions that are way overpriced just because of the font color of the item being auctioned. Don't ask.
11. Enemies (non-player) who run away after only 25% damage and come back with thousands upon thousands of friends. Even druids aren't THAT bad.
12. Sheeplike mob mentality inherent in consumerism. 'Nuff said.
13. Guilds demanding you leave your current guild and join theirs, then bully and insult you if you refuse. Sound familiar? They're pretty rare on my server (weren't on my old one) but I actually find these to be pretty entertaining when they come after me, though lots of other people I've talked to about it feel rather grossed out.
14. Players who snap at other players just for asking directions to someplace. This's actually never happened to me, but it's pretty inconsiderate. It is, after all, far more convenient to just ask someone ingame than to either close the game down and look on the Internet, or run the Internet at a really slowed speed due to the game taking up RAM space. The exception to this for me is when someone in a large city (with guards who tell you where to find stuff) asks for the location of a profession trainer, yet even then I wouldn't really snap at someone--I'd just tell them to ask a guard.
15. Blizzard screwing up its own storyline. It's hard to explain, but when they attempt to retcon they should at least provide a lingering explanation for why the previous version of the story was wrong.
16. The whole PvP setup being plot-contradictory. I know that each playable species has to be on either one side or the other for gameplay purposes, but does it really make much sense for the night elves and tauren to attack each other on sight?
Those're all I can think of for right now and as always is the case with my rants this felt good to get out of my system. Are there other things about WoW or any other online game that anyone else finds annoying or eyebrow-raising?
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dragonflame
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| Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008 12:48 Post subject: |
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Hyraxey (if I can call you that XD), als always, your rants are nice to read =D.
1: I particularly play Counter-strike: source more than is healthy for me xD. and one thing about it that I absolutely HATE is the luck factor involved. someone running at me yelling 'asdblwarrrrgwb' in his microphone whilst spraying bullets from his AK47, actually making a headshot on me, that makes my blood boil.
2: you said somewhere that Youtube is the place for a thermonuclear thread war, but in many games you have the option of using your microphone to talk to other people, this is also the matter in Counter-strike: source. I have personally experienced a guy starting to yell profanity through his microphone at me, without any reason, my tries to get the guy to calm down or to convince him of the fact I did nothing were useless, and with every word he said to me some profanity came with it. while all I wanted to do was just play the game peacefully while blasting other people's heads off xD.
3: WoW: (got this off my friend, his opinion, not mine, just posting it here) my friend says that with the last few updates the Paladin has only gotten stronger, I watched him PvP some (reasonably equipped) and saw him getting his behind whooped by a paladin. so they now are able to: tank fairly well, heal, buff, and do damage |
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Hyraxylos
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| Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008 21:41 Post subject: |
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| dragonflame wrote: |
| someone running at me yelling 'asdblwarrrrgwb' in his microphone whilst spraying bullets from his AK47 |
Sounds like he's talking about the economy. 
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| I have personally experienced a guy starting to yell profanity through his microphone at me, without any reason, my tries to get the guy to calm down or to convince him of the fact I did nothing were useless, and with every word he said to me some profanity came with it. while all I wanted to do was just play the game peacefully while blasting other people's heads off xD. |
Odd self-contradiction in that last sentence. Let me just say that there are some rather......... "interesting" people who play MMOGs.
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| my friend says that with the last few updates the Paladin has only gotten stronger, I watched him PvP some (reasonably equipped) and saw him getting his behind whooped by a paladin. so they now are able to: tank fairly well, heal, buff, and do damage |
It alternates over time. Every several months that go by, Blizzard decides to change things around so that some abilities that were originally only "Talents" (in WoW terms, something that not everybody of that class could use but only those of one kind of specialization, such as a "Fire" mage vs. a "Frost" mage) suddenly become abilities that don't require specialization, or may change the magnitude of benefit given by an ability, or give classes whole new sets of abilities that require complete reconsideration of typical strategy in combat. The end result is always that one class winds up fundamentally superior overall to the others.
This is where democracy kicks in. Online games that require different roles of participation from players (via class systems or whatever else) would degenerate into something unspeakable if players didn't complain about unfair advantages popping up.
As for people yelling odd words in strange tongues over voicechat, I'm just curious as to what drives people to play online games while under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs. o.O
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Draquenvar
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| Posted: Fri 07 Nov 2008 22:33 Post subject: |
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| dragonflame wrote: |
| my friend says that with the last few updates the Paladin has only gotten stronger, I watched him PvP some (reasonably equipped) and saw him getting his behind whooped by a paladin. |
I've been playing WoW since shortly after release. I won't brag, but I'm pretty good at the game and I know how to PvP. I have a few characters that I'm good with that have decent - or better - gear. In most cases, as of right now, I am a joke to a paladin ^^; They are overpowered right now without question. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't experienced it!!! lol
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DarkDragon
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| Posted: Sun 09 Nov 2008 5:05 Post subject: Re: WoW you're annoying... |
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| Hyraxylos wrote: |
| Master even recently predicted what he believed the final patch for the game would entail: |
| 'Inner' Hyraxylos wrote: |
| World of Warcraft, Version 5.?.?? (four expansions) |
Currently V3.0.3. There will be two more expansion sets, to get us to V5.XX.XX,
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| All players lower than Level 90 are now forbidden to carry money. They will still be able to pick it up, but doing so below Level 90 is now a bannable offense. Asking why is also a bannable offense. |
I would think Level 100, and you have to be Exhaulted with your faction to carry any.
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| All spells other than Warlock spells have been reduced to 1% effectiveness and cost twice the previous amount of mana. |
Sounds like a regular nerf-fest that Blizzard holds semi-annually...
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| The Warlock's Fear spell now kills instantly and cannot be resisted. |
Meaning you run until you drop off a 70+ yard ledge and die...
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| Druids specializing in Feral combat are now able to ban members of their current party from the game. |
Since many players will quit in frustration over the quests and gear they can't get because of those blasted Druids, I can see it.
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| Anyone speaking in the Trade Channel of cities about any subject at all will be reported. |
Hallejluhah! No more Chuck Noris jokes or I scream for Ice Cream!
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| Players will no longer be able to move while wearing armor heavier than cloth. |
Ouch, I play a Tankadin....
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| Jumping is now impossible on slanted surfaces. To jump you must be standing on perfectly flat ground. |
Wheee!
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| Out of respect to Nigeria, the names of all nations of the world are now bleeped out as well by the profanity filter. |
*Censored*
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I feel rather certain that my id may have been exagerrating... just a little. What he makes references to however are based on just a few annoying aspects of an otherwise great game. Here are some things I'd like to rant about for what's probably my 652nd rant online by now.
1. The Lich King. Actually this is more of a "Warcraft" complaint than a WoW one; I just think the character is too much of a Mary Sue of a villain. Arthas got away with an awful lot in Warcraft 3 and didn't get killed off when he should have. Twice. |
We got through Illidan in Burning Crusade, so Arthas made sense... The question is, who next?
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| 2. Little kids who whisper to you that you've been "Reported." after saying the word "dang" in the Trade channel. |
GM's ignore them. They have bigger issues, and they only look into it when they've been notified a billion times or that something was just that awful...
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| 3. Stranglethorn Vale General Chat on the Alliance side (especially at night), and (of course) Barrens General Chat on the Horde side. |
That's why the shirt says: "I survived Barren's Chat" And I do know the two numbskulls who started the whole "I scream for Ice cream" on Dragonblight...
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| 4. Silent party members. I'm not talking about friends who just don't feel like talking at the moment; I'm talking about strangers you group with temporarily. This has happened to me only four times, but every time it was a little unsettling. Someone would invite me. I'd then ask if s/he needed help with something, and would receive no response. Instead, the other player just ran around killing things or whatever, never uttering a word of what he wanted from me. I even explain to them that they need to press the ENTER button to make a message box appear and THEN type stuff in and press ENTER again to actually say it; it was all to no avail. Creepiest of all was the last guy who did this; he didn't even go kill boars or anything but just stood there STARING at me. Very unsettling. |
Either Solo it, or party with guys on Vent so you CAN yell at them...
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| 5. People using letters in their names that aren't part of the Roman alphabet. This isn't just eye-rolling, it's actually an obstacle. The game distinguishes between the letter e and the letter ệ, which of course doesn't appear on the keyboard and can't be typed in to search or /friend or whatever. This happens with guild names as well--there's a guild on my server called "Đêlêo Právus" or something, which has quite a few obnoxious high-level players that I've taken to referring to among my friends as the "Deli Privates". It should be made illegal, and this is one of very few occasions that I assert that something legal should be made illegal rather than the other way around. |
Only way to do it is Character Map...
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| 6. "Closed zones". It used to be possible (albeit difficult) to get into Mt. Hyjal and see the most beautiful scenery in the whole game. Now it isn't, because of a script that teleports you right back out the moment you get in. Oh well... there's always private servers I guess. |
Private servers, and searching the net for bug locations
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| 7. Druids complaining about being "nerfed", or weakened to make things fair for the other job classes. This isn't actually NEARLY as much of a problem now as it once was, but at one point druids were better at being warriors than warriors were. I'm a druid, and I can give firsthand testimony that without exception ALL druids (including myself) get ahead by cheating, hitting below the belt, and stooping to cowardly tactics that rogues wouldn't touch. We're especially talented at running away. I won't say we're "overpowered" necessarily, but as versatile as we are we certainly don't need to complain about being weakened either unless it's something really extreme. |
The majority of players I've hung with would say that Druids are only the most overpowered class in the game.. Though I think Ret-Palis are going to need Nerf before Druids this time.
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| 8. Bossy healers. Holy-specialized priests were particularly obnoxious in older days though not so much anymore. They always needed to learn the hard way why it wasn't a good idea to make the party's tank angry, especially if it's a druid who doesn't rely upon someone else for healing. |
Bossy healers are typically just plain Bad healers. Or it's just a Bad group that has no discipline.
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| 9. Players who don't understand the logic behind the "Need Before Greed" system the game uses to distribute loot and why it's important to hit the "Greed" button unless the item in question being rolled for is specifically tailored to them. |
Ninja! (Really I agree with the point, so much I had a macro explaining it for a while that I'd hit as soon as a party member joined... But it must be said:) Ninja!
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| 10. Auctions that are way overpriced just because of the font color of the item being auctioned. Don't ask. |
Agreed, but that's because they are either put up by bored people who jsut want to see if they'll get the price, people are lazy so they buy their gear in the AH (Formerly guilty as charged...), or they are just farmers who have nothing to better to do than be idiots...
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| 11. Enemies (non-player) who run away after only 25% damage and come back with thousands upon thousands of friends. Even druids aren't THAT bad. |
That's why you pull and CC enemies. I've never had a problem with it. It's that last 25% health that they run, but I usually CC or lower movement (Wing Clip, Concussion shot, or another slowing ability) and just lay down some cooldowns...
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| 12. Sheeplike mob mentality inherent in consumerism. 'Nuff said. |
Bahh!
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| 13. Guilds demanding you leave your current guild and join theirs, then bully and insult you if you refuse. Sound familiar? They're pretty rare on my server (weren't on my old one) but I actually find these to be pretty entertaining when they come after me, though lots of other people I've talked to about it feel rather grossed out. |
Never really had a problem. though I ussually had my own guild or was with a current big namer out there.
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| 14. Players who snap at other players just for asking directions to someplace. This's actually never happened to me, but it's pretty inconsiderate. It is, after all, far more convenient to just ask someone ingame than to either close the game down and look on the Internet, or run the Internet at a really slowed speed due to the game taking up RAM space. The exception to this for me is when someone in a large city (with guards who tell you where to find stuff) asks for the location of a profession trainer, yet even then I wouldn't really snap at someone--I'd just tell them to ask a guard. |
Newbies... Gotta be gentle, but firm. I give directions, but usually bounce out and ignore them if I get peppered...
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| 15. Blizzard screwing up its own storyline. It's hard to explain, but when they attempt to retcon they should at least provide a lingering explanation for why the previous version of the story was wrong. |
Please expand, or are we just talking about The Caverns of Time?
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| 16. The whole PvP setup being plot-contradictory. I know that each playable species has to be on either one side or the other for gameplay purposes, but does it really make much sense for the night elves and tauren to attack each other on sight? |
That's why I like Rp servers (When you don't have non-Rpers killing you for the heck of it) and private servers.
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dragonflame
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| Posted: Tue 11 Nov 2008 7:11 Post subject: |
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| someone running at me yelling 'asdblwarrrrgwb' in his microphone whilst spraying bullets from his AK47 |
Sounds like he's talking about the economy.
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naah I wasn't talking about the economy, in the game I play way too much (Counterstrike: source) you basically have Terrorist Vs. Counter-Terrorist in which you have weapons, one of which is the AK47. the AK47 has large recoil/sway so it's hard to just hold down the firing button and hit, though a large amount of people are lucky enough to do so 
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| Odd self-contradiction in that last sentence. Let me just say that there are some rather......... "interesting" people who play MMOGs. |
that one was intented xP. and yes I'm very "interesting"  *evil laugh* |
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Hyraxylos
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This's something that WASN'T annoying me at the time that I started this topic, but it is now suddenly probably since I first reached my high 50s with my reincarnated character (I say 'reincarnated' because I chose to delete him and start over, avoiding mistakes I'd made before, rather than pay to move him). It has to do with the LFG (Looking For Group) function.
The option of entering the LFG queue is mostly used for Instanced Dungeons, which almost assuredly require groups unless you're 20 levels above the dungeon in question. Draquenvar was running me through Maraudon, and as I was looking for purple crystals some complete stranger whispered me if I wanted to help his group with the Sunken Temple of Atal'Hakkar. It took me a couple of minutes to figure out how and why this person was able to track me of being sufficient level and chat me.
Let me repeat for emphasis of the sheer magnitude of the stupidity here. I was already IN another dungeon. Not just another one, but Maraudon is located in the western part of central Kalimdor, far across the ocean from the swamp in Azeroth (the subcontinent in the southeast of the world map) where the Sunken Temple is located. It didn't help that ST has ZERO shareable quests and as such helping someone with it always has to be an act of sheer charity. The moron actually even ORDERED me to ditch Draq and let him summon me over there.
This got even more ludicrous when it happened again while I was about to do Scholomance, which is on the island in that big lake in the center of the northern half of the eastern continent on the map I linked. This time I was asked to join a run of one part of Hellfire Citadel, an Instanced Dungeon that isn't even ON that map. It's in Draenor, the world that the Orcs, Ogres, and Draenei came from. So this person wasn't asking me to go to another continent this time around, but a completely separate PLANET. >_<
It's not that irritating to think back on. If anything it's actually kinda funny. But can't these people check the locations of players they're poking before asking them to leave right in the middle of the other uninterruptible task they're doing?
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i thought you could only go up to level 80...
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