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Hyraxylos
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 7:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

eelukathe wrote:
I am not bashing any religion or promoting any, in truth I am christian but i also believe that the buddists are right about finding internal with ourselves and not just with God. My personal solution was to believe in God but deny the church.


This is a concept that others I've talked to about have found it a real struggle to figure out: that you don't need an organization (which may well have ulterior political motives d'oh! ) to have supernatural* beliefs. I've tried spelling it out every way I can comprehend to fundies who argue with me that RELIGION =\= BELIEFS and BELIEFS =\= RELIGION but only wind up setting off a "does not compute" error in their minds.

*(@SkieFireYokana) "Supernatural" as I use the term does not mean "false" or "imaginary". It means a belief based on something not observable by the "conventional" senses such as hearing or smelling; all evidence is subjective rather than objective and thus the supernatural is technically "unscientific" regardless of being true.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Mar 2009 17:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that dragons are really gods in disguise. And to answer the first post of this topic, there are no organized religions centering around dragons. Except for me, I don't know if there are other people with the belief that dragons are gods. So what if they were able to be killed. The gods of many different religions were killed in their mythologies. Gods are practically worshiped in every century. My goddess is a magnificent Silver Dragon that has light constantly shining on her from behind. Most of the gods show themselves in many different forms, but for me, they show themselves as dragons. I think it depends on your beliefs.
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Jasriella
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Mar 2009 20:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say I really agree with what you've said but I'm not here to dispute other's beliefs so I'll just simply ask some questions to clarify a few things.

To you what is the definition of a "god"? Because with as many different views of what dragons are, their are even more views of what gods are and can be.

Can the eastern religions be classified in that catagory of "people who believe dragons are gods"?

Why would a god choose to take a physical form in the first place if they had a choice?

And why would a god need to "hide", especially as a dragon. Even more puzzling is the fact that dragons are pretty hard to miss so why pick something that sticks out so much?
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Shiari
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Mar 2009 20:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

O_o My species is very similar to humans... and we had a predator and had gods that *we* revered.

I look forward to seeing the answers to Galadreil's questions.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Mar 2009 10:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'd depend on what SD means by the wording. The statement is "I believe that dragons are really gods in disguise." So an answer would vary depending on whether or not any dragons and/or gods are exempt from the claim. That said, my input is that there are many dragons who are not gods, and there are many gods who are not dragons. Actually I can't currently think of any who are both.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Mar 2009 10:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Feathered Serpent. If I wouldn't butcher the spelling I'd try to spell his name...
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quetzalcoatl I think... But as you said, a feathered *serpent*... not dragon.
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PostPosted: Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

The word "dragon" is a rough translation. Around the world various cultures have different descriptions of "dragons." To consider only the western dragon to be a true dragon is very ethnocentric.
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