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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec 2008 7:52    Post subject: I hate knights Reply with quote

I hate how they glorify knights just for killing something in its sleep. I mean, really, we all know that there's no way in heck that a knight could best a fully grown and alert dragon. It would take 100 knights to do that. None of them would come back to tell the tale anyway, they would all die of their injuries almost ten minutes after killing the dragon Mad. Either knights were really good liers, or when they didn't come back the villagers just made up what happened. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Dec 2008 10:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I seriously doubt that any lone knight could best a dragon, even a dracling, in a one-on-one battle and most of the dragonlore of the 14th century and before is lies. You would think that the knights of that era were all chivalrous, but just imagine some of the horrors they committed without telling anybody and what about the things they said. Since they were nobles what they said was practically law for if anybody in lower status contradicted them it was the noose for them.
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008 8:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

goldendragon wrote:
Yes, I seriously doubt that any lone knight could best a dragon, even a dracling, in a one-on-one battle and most of the dragonlore of the 14th century and before is lies. You would think that the knoghts of that era were all chivalrous but just imagine some of the horrors they committed without telling anybody and what about the things they said. Since they were nobles what they said was practically law for if anybody in lower status contradicted them is was the noose for them.


You'd be surprised actually in what damage a lance could POTENTIALLY do if permitted to do so. Very few knights actually bothered to come after me, but none of them hurt me because I knew exactly what I was doing. But if you imagine the combined weight of an armored guy riding a huge armored horse, the momentum of all that weight focussed into a small narrow point charging at you 30 miles per hour isn't a pleasant one.
As for the social stuff, I didn't understand what "class" was about. Since the society I'd grown up in was sorted by age group (old > young) and then secondarily by gender (female > male), I was completely in the dark about the whole thing. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Dec 2008 12:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knights get a bad reputation. Not that the reputation itself is that they are bad people; what I mean is that it has gone bad, as in it is incorrect. Nobody's perfect, and I guarantee that if you think any society, pseudo-society, or group of individuals living together is perfect, there will be flaws somewhere. But I digress; the reputation of knights is so off that some people don't realise how ridiculous it is. They were essentially like the samurai in most cases, but Christian. As attractive as that sounds, when it comes to reputation, samurai have a bad reputation too. Nobody's perfect, like I said. Knights abused the poor, just like samurai, considered themselves greater than the rest of the population. like samurai, and are currently revered for having a code of honor that few individuals followed, just like the samurai.

As for them being so terrible for hunting dragons... *shrugs* Good and evil don't mean much to me, but one thing's nearly certain in my mind. They never actually did it, and therefore in my mind can't be blamed. They did it in other universes, at other times, but I doubt seriously that they did it on our planet, in our universe, at that time. In other words, for people who don't get it, they made it all up. Most people would say that's a bad thing; well, I'm just going to give my two cents on that and leave it at that. It was natural for them to make things up, because it gained themselves elevation in the society. I don't blame people for doing what comes natural, since like I said, good and evil don't really mean much to me. They did what profited them, and they profited from it. I'm against knights less because of how they acted and more because of how they commonly got their position. I'm a firm believer in having to work one's way up in the society, in other words a knight's son, a peasant's sun, and a king's son start at the same societal level and whoever is strongest, smartest, or most able to rise through the ranks will do so. The others will fall behind somewhere inbetween, or get killed. I don't know, it makes sense to me. Knights suck because they got born into their position, and because they are portrayed highly inaccurately. Not for any other reason in my mind.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008 7:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad Grin Not even on their best darn day could a knight ever hope to defeat myself and Auroara. A knight is a minor threat to an alert dragon.
As all the dragon has to really do if it is smart. Throw something big at the knight boom crushed. Where as all Auroara would have to do is manipulate the dark matter particals around the area and crush him like a bug. But I know what you mean, honestly why is it that those knights always pick us to mess with? I'd better stop myself I feel a rant coming on.
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the odd thing... The pictures of knights defeating dragons... all show the dragon as very small..... and very crocodilian. >_> George lanced a croc, not what we think of as a dragon. But crocodiles WERE the dragons of that age.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the dragons were small, but were definately dragons (or wyverns), as they had wings. It is odd the that the tapestries of the medieval era never seemed to be able to understand what size dragons were, some show them as massive, but others are really small: I assume these are the young though, come to think of it...
More 'noble chivalry' from the knights: killing the (relatively) defenceless young.
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PostPosted: Sat 20 Dec 2008 22:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

pommie wrote:
More 'noble chivalry' from the knights: killing the (relatively) defenceless young.


And yet, despite only being able to kill the young, the Catholic Church had enough power to kill all the full-grown ones, and destroy all of their remains? It seems that some of your posts are a little contradictory.
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