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Ravenheart
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 12:49    Post subject: Whats your interpretation? Reply with quote

Here i am, straying out of my comfort zone... it seems ages since i have written anywhere other than the story telling board, so yeah, here i am. Smile

Yes, so i have questions, and i was wondering about your views. Please bear with me, i was debating whether to ask anyone at all, and i chickened out. But now i need to know, and theres noone i can talk to about it here that has an understanding of Otherkin such as you guys. I don't know why it makes me feel uncomfortable, but hey, I'm here and I'm saying it.

Ok... I want to know, what is your personal interpretation of Otherkin?
I don't think i truly understood it when i first declared my draconity, and now i don't believe it at all. (in myself, i believe in Otherkin, just not for me. Does that make sense to you? There must be a better way to put it...) You see, i was beginning to have doubts, however.. it's complicated. Let me describe to you what i feel, and i want to know your views.

So, as i said i don't believe in my draconity, i came to that conclusion a few moths ago, however i still have the idea of wings. I don't know how to explain, but It's like the dragon-me is unclear, except for those. Whilst i can easily let go of the snout, claws, scales, i can't let go of the idea of wings, it still seems... right. Also, i had the feeling i was male, and that also seems to fit...
Does this make sense?
Otherkin doesn't only refer to draconity does it? Am i Otherkin if i think of myself as being a human with wings? I don't even know if it's human I'm thinking of... It could be anything with wings, but a bird doesn't seem to fit...

Help, i'm confusing myself! :/

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Jasriella
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 13:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tentar could probably go into a lot more detail but draconmnacers is what you're describing. With the having the wings but the else being either slightly different straying towards lizard-like or "human". And it could be very possible that you were male in your past life. The soul itself is neither male or female in a sense. SkiFireYokana could go into more detail on that.

(it seems everybody is an expert at something here Smile )

This will be the first time I've ever said anything about it but if I get a choice I would like to be a female dragon in the next life, but that is of course that I get to choose. Then I'll be finding snipits of this life as a male human wondering what the heck? Laughing .

Believing that you're otherkin simply means that you believe that you either are or were another species at some point. Like myself, I believe I am a dragon otherkin, deriving from my past life as a (I think its silver) dragon. If you look at Serenity, she could be considered double otherkin (or something of the sort). She believes that she is/was of the wolves and of dragons at some point. So it could be any other species, which is where the two parts of the word come into play. "Other" meaning something else and "kin" is just another term for species.

I hope I helped Confused ?
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Ravenheart
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 13:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, that probably helped more than you thought Smile What I didn't know is if there were any restrictions to Otherkin, whether it was just animals or just dragons... So seen as i'm thinking i was probably just a human, is that still Otherkin? You said a different species so..
Anyway, I think before i settle on a idea i need to know a bit more about it first, so that i don't go through the same as i did before. Thus the reason for my questions Smile


Galadreil wrote:
This will be the first time I've ever said anything about it but if I get a choice I would like to be a female dragon in the next life, but that is of course that I get to choose. Then I'll be finding snipits of this life as a male human wondering what the heck? Laughing


Heh, just curious though, may i ask why you would choose to be female? I can't explain why i think i was male... So i don't think i'm going to even try Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 13:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravenheart wrote:
Thank you, that probably helped more than you thought Smile What I didn't know is if there were any restrictions to Otherkin, whether it was just animals or just dragons... So seen as i'm thinking i was probably just a human, is that still Otherkin? You said a different species so..
Smile


Well if you were just human then you wouldn't be otherkin. The reason I suggested draconmancers was the way you described yourself has having draconic wings but still somewhat human, and that is a textbook description of a draconmancer. And by that description you would be otherkin.

Ravenheart wrote:
Heh, just curious though, may i ask why you would choose to be female? I can't explain why i think i was male... So i don't think i'm going to even try Laughing


I honestly don't exactly know why. Not to be degrading to my fellow males out there but I just think that living as a female dragon would be a lot better than a male. It just feels right anyway. To my knowledge there wasn't as much fighting that the females had to partake in where I (again this is where I "think" I was a dragon) was. Less chances to get yourself killed would be one reason in that sense, unless man was involved had a problem with dragons then the females are the first they go for in most cases because of the fact that they're the ones that bear the young of course Sad .
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 16:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are potentially many different reasons for feeling like you have wings. Habit, being the first. Second being because wings symbolise a great deal. Third is that I've noticed that being spiritually aware often causes a sensation of wings (which is my pet theory on why so many people think they are 'angels').

Also, draconmancers are pretty much 100% made up. There are potentially many species of humanoid dragons or even humanoids with wings.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 17:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otherkin, as I see it, are beings who are not meant to be human, used to be other creatures, currently occupying a human body. Or a misplaced soul if you will. You'll notice that a lot of people have different opinions about this definition.

I hate to say it, but I'm going to say it anyway: No one can tell you what you were. Only you can. If you seriously doubt your draconity, than it's probably not true. It may feel like your whole world comes crashing down on you, but it's probably for the best if that happens. Is it better to believe in something that doesn't feel right, or is it better to realize that it's all not true and it's a closed chapter now?

Try to meditate, think about it all for a long time, and above all, take your time to find out the truth about yourself. You've got to decide for yourself what feels right, no one can do it for you.
You can also try to search the internet, maybe look for some articles about otherkinism.

And I'm not comfortable with the dracomancer suggestion... I agree with Shiari.
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 18:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Shiari and Namhias. No one but you can tell you who you are. All we can do is give you suggestions as to what you might be.


( I hope we helped you in some way... and others who maybe asking similar questions...)
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PostPosted: Tue 06 Jan 2009 18:41    Post subject: Re: Whats your interpretation? Reply with quote

Ravenheart wrote:
Ok... I want to know, what is your personal interpretation of Otherkin?

Going by the definition that is generally accepted by the otherkin community, an otherkin is an individual who believes that he or she has, for any reason, a non-human soul. I tend to take it a little further than that, and include people who are human, have, for all intents and purposes, a "human" soul (I don't quite buy into the idea of species-specific souls), but have memories from previous cycles.

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So, as i said i don't believe in my draconity, i came to that conclusion a few moths ago, however i still have the idea of wings. I don't know how to explain, but It's like the dragon-me is unclear, except for those. Whilst i can easily let go of the snout, claws, scales, i can't let go of the idea of wings, it still seems... right. Also, i had the feeling i was male, and that also seems to fit...

It could mean any number of things, really. Maybe the original draconic self-image was wrong and you were something else; maybe the whole idea was wrong; maybe the non-wing aspects were something you "invented" for yourself. Or it could be something completely different. Those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head.

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Otherkin doesn't only refer to draconity does it?

No.

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Am i Otherkin if i think of myself as being a human with wings?

I'd say yes.

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I don't even know if it's human I'm thinking of... It could be anything with wings, but a bird doesn't seem to fit...

Give it time. Maybe you'll figure something out, maybe the draconity will come back, maybe even that feeling will disappear. We don't know, and trying to rush things certainly won't help.
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