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I came to The conclusion that if god was a loving and forgiving entity why have hell?
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I came to the same conclusion.
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other things are harder to pinpoint like the sensation that my limbs are the wrong shape(s), are too short to boot... and that sometimes ther are more there than i should have as a human.
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now see, I never have had any of these things when I was a kid, but at the same time I was so focused on everything else that I also didnt realize I was ever hungry or things like that...and I ignore anything like that I feel today because I know its just my own mind playing tricks. On the rare occasion when something like that happens and Im actually not focusing on dragons, it's almost always on my back, so I've waved that off as my own shirt. Once or twice it happened so fast while I was in bed that I flinched and arced my back (and no I was not thinking of them), but again, its very inconsistant so this means nothing to me.
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there is the jarring sence at times that there are really two or more of me.
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That is EXACTLY how my 'trances' felt when I was a kid...I dont know when they started, just that I managed to eventually stop them.
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dreams of shape changing, where everything seems more real than reality. ... those are strange I cannot exert control over them nor wake myself from them (even when i reilize I am "dreaming" and I want to wake up.)....
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Sadly I only remember maybe 0.1% of my dreams, so no relations there :\
Woo I just used your post to explain mine! I am going to say that I am 100% uncertain on anything spiritually related, and I will never pretend to understand it...though I may one day actually have an opinion on where I was before life, what defines my life, and where I will be after death (because really that's the core of any spiritual beleif). But right now im just sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else debate and form their beleifs.
I live in the present day, so even though I feel the urge to discover why exactly I obsess over dragons so much and why out of everything else in my thoughts they are the most important to me, I will carry on with what really matters in my life. Maybe one day I can stop caring so much about logistics and just find out what feels right to me. I have already taken that step I beleive by joining this little niche, and discussing my obsessions and occasional delusional feelings with random strangers 
which brings me to question two, which is what are your beliefs on what happens before during and afterr death in terms of spirituality.
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Jasriella
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| Posted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 0:21 Post subject: |
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You know....when I come to think about it, death is only a pause in an ever continuing cycle. I do not believe in "God" per say. I look more towards nature and fate and I do not believe in a heaven or hell. Considering that the world has had numerous recurrences of tyrants I think it's safe to assume that a couple of them may be reincarnated to re-try their world domination/destruction/whatever plots.
I strongly believe in the soul. I think I said this earlier, but I believe that when a soul is created or born, it is born with a body. It can be whatever, but when a soul is born with a body that is the soul's true or preferred form. Then when that vessel dies the soul separates from the body and searches out for another of the same race at the least to be reborn. Though if it cannot find a vessel for some reason it may be forced to find something else.
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Namhias
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| Posted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 16:08 Post subject: |
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I strongly believe in reincarnation, and that death is only a temporary (or sometimes a permanent) stop. I belief we are here to learn, experience and perhaps find some "inner truth" however vague that may sound. I think that after the body dies, the soul reflects on life, its previous lives perhaps, and wanders the great beyond (?) in search of a new life / body. Perhaps there is a point where a soul decides to stop reincarnating, either because it has achieved its goals, or perhaps because it no longer wishes to live again.
I think that a soul has a certain preference for a certain species, perhaps because it was its first incarnation, or perhaps because the soul was created to be part of a certain species.
I don't believe there is a heaven or hell, just the great beyond. The stories the bible tries to teach have always sounded non-sensible in my ears, but who am I to judge someone else's beliefs.
You didn't ask, but I feel it is necessary to add that I've formed my beliefs very early on, I didn't even know that reincarnation was the word for my beliefs when I first thought of it. |
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CB
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| Posted: Sun 25 Oct 2009 6:16 Post subject: |
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You didn't ask, but I feel it is necessary to add that I've formed my beliefs very early on, I didn't even know that reincarnation was the word for my beliefs when I first thought of it. |
Now why should you have to wait for me to ask questions to voice your beliefs, thats what we're all here for right? 
I personally never got to a point in my life where I formed spiritual beliefs, because it never really was a focus point in my life until now. My family is christian but, seeing as we never had talked on the subject, I doubt I could even list 3 of the 10 commandments. All I know is I tried reading the bible when I was about 11 and I put it down after I read in the first page how man was created with mud or something like that. Plus I have trouble reading books as new as in the 1900s, so there was no way I could make it through the bible :\
I think that's why Im in the delimna I am now because now that I'm entering adulthood my mind is less willing to accept new ideas, and since I never really formed any ideas in the first place that means I'm skeptical to everything.
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Jasriella
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I have an aunt and uncle who tried to get me to go to church regularly. I tried it for a few weeks but what I found the pastor saying at times apalled me. I was respectable though and toughed it out till the end of the sermons and finally stopped going. If they knew what I had shaped my beliefs as now, I think they'd try an exorcism on me even at this age.
Then my parents baptised me a few years ago. I made it plain and clear I didn't want anything to do with it. But once the pastor showed up I had no choice beings I didn't want to make myself or my family look bad.
Eventually they got the point and we don't talk on the subject of religion. And when it is brought up and I'm dragged in it I make my point as plain as possible without saying outright "I'm otherkin" or "hey, I'm a dragon".
I guess Namhias that our views seem to have quite a few coincedences, though I guess I am the more superstitious one and you analytical and scientiffic  .
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Namhias
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| Posted: Thu 12 Nov 2009 15:24 Post subject: |
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Eventually they got the point and we don't talk on the subject of religion. And when it is brought up and I'm dragged in it I make my point as plain as possible without saying outright "I'm otherkin" or "hey, I'm a dragon".
I guess Namhias that our views seem to have quite a few coincidences, though I guess I am the more superstitious one and you analytical and scientific . |
How does that work? Do your parents know you believe you are otherkin?
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Jasriella
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| Namhias wrote: |
| [How does that work? Do your parents know you believe you are otherkin |
As far as I know, all they know about my beliefs is that I've structured my own system that works just fine for me and has been getting me where I want to and gives me that sense of closure that any other "formal" religion never did. And I doubt they've had the idea of connecting my obsession with dragons with my religious/spiritual views considering my 4 year old brother likes to pretend he's a dragon, trying to breath fire on anything that moves, growling, on occasion scratching with invisible claws. It gets quite amusing and even more so at the fact that it's just another strange coincidence .
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I so personally have two relatives who I can tie to it if I felt like it: I have a female cousin I only had contact with for a few weeks who had a minor obsession with it (in addition to also having a dragon necklace, which suprised me), and I have an uncle who has alot of dragon tattoos and statues in his house, but he was in a metal band so that could just be a rocker thing :\
That said I am not really in the mood to discuss this "otherkin" thing at the current moment in time, it's messing with my head. If Namhias wants to explain it that is fine but I dont feel like explaining it twice :\
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