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Daragon
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Oct 2009 18:12    Post subject: Favorite Weapon Reply with quote

If you were able to choose your weapons before being drafted into the army, what would they be?

Primary Weapon: M4A1
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M68 LaserScope

Secondary: Black Hawk (Pistol)
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Oct 2009 19:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess because I wish to type something I'll humor myself and answer to this.

With the current "conflict" in Iraq and Afghanistan I would prefer an HK416. The M4A1 though is the rifle used by the U.S Military is at the very best, is the cheapest but most effective rifle the Government could find. The M4A1 has an issues with an over heating barrel, and like it's counter part the M16 can't preform like it should with out constant cleaning.

The HK416 is similar to the M4, but has a unique system developed by H&K to disperse heat and perform better when it's internals are dirty. The HK416 also boast the rails across the top, side, and bottom of the weapon. Allowing similar platforms used on the M4 to be transfer to the Hk416.

As for modification. A simple reflex red dot scope to be added. No zoom feature would really be needed. A vertical fore-grip to help with stability and closer ranges. I guess if I have to, a torchlight for indoors.

As a back up weapon, I would have two choices.

The first H&K Mk23 SOCOM 45. The pistol is basically a primary weapon on it's own. Threaded for a suppressor and undermount laser, in a indoor environment in can be just as deadly as any other weapon.

It is a little heavy and larger then most pistols, so my other choice would be a M1911.45MEU(SOC). A USMC enhanced Colt M1911A1. It has been fine tuned to fix the M1911 old problems, mainly recoil and accuracy. It also has larger sights, less trigger weight and, a large number of small advantages over a civilian handgun. (Filing to the thumb safety, a ring hammer, filed trigger, polished internals and so on)

Anyways, the only reason I know most about this weapons is back when I 13, 14 years old I was heavily interested into the military. I still am, but more in the military itself then the things they do.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 1:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beings I am in the military, the weapon we go through with at Basic is the regular M16. Though as Solid stated the Army issues you an M4A1 when you deploy to combative areas which like the M16 needs constant cleaning and easily overheats.

I side with Solid with the HK416. As for a secondary weapon I'd choose the M1911A1. Minimal recoil, 15 round clip, and suppressor/laser/scope mountable.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 4:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Galadreil wrote:
Beings I am in the military, the weapon we go through with at Basic is the regular M16. Though as Solid stated the Army issues you an M4A1 when you deploy to combative areas which like the M16 needs constant cleaning and easily overheats.

I side with Solid with the HK416. As for a secondary weapon I'd choose the M1911A1. Minimal recoil, 15 round clip, and suppressor/laser/scope mountable.


I thought you used an M16A3, Not the original Vietnam-issue rifle...My mind has gone blank for a few seconds... O.o

Eh, I'll stick with my Black Hawk.
Ever thought about how alot of people that have pistols usually have at least 1 Glock? (G23) My grandfather has one, and when I was little, I shot it and it almost FLEW out of my hands. xD
Good times, good times...

Another weapon I would like to fire, (If I get the chance) is (I think) an M16A3DMR . (Is that how you spell it? I'll check.) It's supposed to be a modified M16A3 to be able shoot long distances, and able to attach a scope. (I Forget the name of the scope.)
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 9:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daragon wrote:
I thought you used an M16A3, Not the original Vietnam-issue rifle...My mind has gone blank for a few seconds... O.o

You honestly think those cheap bastards at basic would give us worthwhile weapons to learn to dismantle and re-assemble? I've heard stories of them using M1Garands from the Korean War on training soldiers marksmanship. I'll bet the only things new I'll be using when I ship out is the ammunition and grenades.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 17:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Galadreil wrote:
Daragon wrote:
I thought you used an M16A3, Not the original Vietnam-issue rifle...My mind has gone blank for a few seconds... O.o

You honestly think those cheap bastards at basic would give us worthwhile weapons to learn to dismantle and re-assemble? I've heard stories of them using M1Garands from the Korean War on training soldiers marksmanship. I'll bet the only things new I'll be using when I ship out is the ammunition and grenades.


I'm not in the war, (yet) so I don't know much...

Which leads me to ask, are basic trainers really as bad as they say? I know they have to be strict, but would they, literally, shout in your face if you even messed up slightly?
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 17:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daragon wrote:
I'm not in the war, (yet) so I don't know much...

Which leads me to ask, are basic trainers really as bad as they say? I know they have to be strict, but would they, literally, shout in your face if you even messed up slightly?

I'll put it into perspective for ya. When your sitting down for chow and you have your cup filled with coffee or whatever, your supposed to hold it to your chest, drink it, or put it down. Your plasticware must be placed in a certain fashion, and you're only allowed the grub side of the food line until you reach AIT (the job training).

When you're marching you must keep rythem with the CO's call for "left, left, left." Theres certain ways you face left, right, about face (turn around), taking point or front and center. If you mess up in the slightest on any of this and they catch you, you have a free ticket to being smoked.

Then when you're not marching or drilling and you're doing something else like the firing range or weapon's assembly, you better follow your instructions to the microscopic dot or you get another free ticket to pushups.

Anyway, that's just basic and they let up after the first three weeks (red phase) the rest is more technical training and a bit more relaxed. That first three weeks would be what conditioning in football is x2 all day.
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Oct 2009 17:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I prefer the HKMP5 series. Compact yet powerful, they use the standard 9mm that is found in most sidearms, making it easy to scrounge if need be. Yes, that is a little small for most people, who look down at the 9mm, the MP5 uses it well. Since there are so many variations for different needs, with or folding stocks, silencers or other features, there's always a model to suit your needs. Also, the choice of single-shot, three round burst and full auto is not a bad item to list either. The downside is that it is best served in confined or shrot range areas, where it's 9mm load isn't an issue.

All in all, it's not a weapon for long range fighting. In those cases, I'd stick with (like the others) something like the HK416. As for sidearm, I would have to take the Mk23.

A weapon is simply a tool, and as for myself, i am a swordsman...
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