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musKeter
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011 5:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I agree with Dracorian, Hate is one of the most powerful feeling you might experience, truth is we Believe love is powerful, but its easily twisted...

Trough my dream about my whole dragon life, i found that love connects us, but hate for the ones that want to harm ether you or your family is far stronger, the decisions we make thorough our life are made for somebody else on the expense of our well being, that tends to generate a lot of hate towards the surroundings

And to get one thing clear I'm Against humanity in every aspect of my life, but because we ARE humans we have to live our life as one of them, so hate is everywhere, greed and corruption on every corner, the happy moments don't last long but that's why they are called happy moments, because I don't have many of those I seem to have a cheerful expression towards life, showing smiles and happiness as a facade to hide my true feelings but we all have to cope with our life somehow this is how I cope with it, I might be socially distanced but I like my life, Because we are who we are Dracorian lets try to make the most of our life on Earth and maybe after death we will pass onto a better world filled with beings that are our soul mates
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Dacorian
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011 15:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're one of the few who understand me in this fact. Thanks for that.
The next life, it is unfortunate that I don't believe it, although I would love to and that's just why my life is full of hatred. Just this life, surrounded by people who breed like rabbits without wisdom. If you think too much about the people on the streets it's not quite acceptable for a person who puts a dragon next to him or her. But the hatred has made me strong in real life it also gives more confidence and life experience. But you can not use mindless hate without reason (like with alcohol), otherwise it is useless for the life after the feeling and you learn nothing from it. I, on the other hand, have seen too much of it, and there will be many more incidents coming unfortunately. Therefore I limited my contact on the PC, it's never really personal. Always trust the strongest sense, it has taught me much for more than 20 years. And love is nothing more than an idealism of humanity who does not know what they are talking about.

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musKeter
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011 15:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe life after death is optimistic viewing of a desperate situation, but better something than nothing right?

I'm one of the few that don't fear death, In a sense I would rather welcome it even if it was a painful one.... But wanting death is like being dead inside, mentally in a way, so I look at brighter things, like listening to music that inspires life and greater ideals, but unfortunately that's all idealism not much more, but it helps as a pick me up for my mood at some times,

Hate towards others got rid me of fear of making somebody sad or unhappy, it stripped me of nervousness as well of fantasizing or pursuing dreams I cant obtain or setting goals I cant reach, it set my view of the world at the most basic view a.k.a reality

I'm the most Down to Earth person I know of, and I accept any fate given to me, its not like I'm giving up or something but if lets say I get an F in a test I wouldn't even twitch at a thing like that, my friend getting hurt badly like broken leg, does bother me to some insignificant level but even that dissipates if I know he will ''survive'' so to speak, bones heal like everything during time, but some things are etched into our souls, and we dare not to speak of em, Internet is a perfect place to open up to people that might understand your feelings. And you sharing your feelings to us is what helps people like you and me Dracorian to understand each other, as we both see we have quite the same outlook at the world and reality (understanding) of the surroundings.
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2011 14:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dacorian wrote:
Always trust the strongest sense, it has taught me much for more than 20 years. And love is nothing more than an idealism of humanity who does not know what they are talking about.

Actually, love is the force that enables conscious beings to realize the value of one another. It came into being long before humanity did. Hate, by contrast, is a mistake invented by human clumsiness that clouds one's perceptions of reality and directs those it touches to seek out new ways to lie to themselves further, even when they realize full well that they're lying to themselves. It's a desire to cease to exist, and to spread non-existence out toward others.

musKeter wrote:
Hate towards others got rid me of fear of making somebody sad or unhappy, it stripped me of nervousness as well of fantasizing or pursuing dreams I cant obtain or setting goals I cant reach, it set my view of the world at the most basic view a.k.a reality

These are descriptions of what anger and doubt do, respectively.

...Looking back on what I've just said here, it seems to be nothing more than a an elaborate "nuh-uh" on my part. d'oh! Since I've stumbled across what looks like a sort of philosophical "language barrier", I'm probably not going to be able to contribute much more to this, but at least I can say I tried.
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Dacorian
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Mar 2011 15:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the dragonkin's have a common view of their draconity that I try to break at some points for those who want to think about it beyond what they read on the net or see what they do with Playstation. I can say this quite offensive to people and it's never accepted with a thanks. I have received many negative comments, why I'm the one who should know, why I am so bold, why I love doing this and make people upset. But draconity is an important part in my life, and short sensibility of many makes that the cable to my kindness snap and I have to recover this cable every time. there were some who understood what I say and that gives me a good feeling that I am not alone, like with you now MusKeter. But they were limited, very limited!
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Dacorian
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Mar 2011 21:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't change how you were born or how the people have made you to the person you are today. But hatred is the only thing I can really accept after everything. I feel that this test, in conflict with wisdom is the struggle that I currently get. I regret that many people don't understand me in this because it would help many people in their faith, I am sure. If I could say my sentences that I have in mind, I'm sure that SDB would prohibit me not to response again also. These are the black pieces in my life, the things that gnaw at my mind when I see people react to their draconity. Therefore is that I dress myself in black, every day, to make me remember what I feel and what I am. Then people can see how black I am in my mind, but never been able to express. The dragon means more to me than what the world is, and I would like to explain that to the world. How can I reassure them by saying what I have in mind? Impossible i'd say. How can I have confidence in humankind, after all what I see, know, for what they don't get?

I sound very imaginative and caught in an epic story, but make no mistake in this message. I tried to clarifying the other site how dirty the reality is, even with dragons with questions that are very difficult to answer and the members of SDB may not react differently. The dragon has wisdom, in that they are right, but they never dare using it ... if they have any wisdom anyway for wisdom will wake up with hatred, I have been living with it for years. My love for the one dragon came before I even knew what a dragon was, more than 20 years back. After thinking for so long you can't hardly accept that people are giving a very narrow-minded response to this issue. This beliefs are new, like a new age religion, I discovered it six years ago on the Internet. First I was glad I was not alone with these thoughts, until I saw how they react, like it was a game. I continued to visit sites in the hope to know people who use the word 'dragon' less, but i never really found them. A man, as I am is happy with some companionship, that is a mammal for ya. For that reason, I began to learn English. Because that is the international language where you can reach them most.

But all this does not mean that I should change my mind, hatred in my body and it makes me strong. This is not the hate where you can step over dead bodies, not in this life anyway, but a feeling where you can think about a lot, and so gain your wisdom..
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Dacorian
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PostPosted: Fri 13 May 2011 18:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another chapter in finding out where I stand for...


I often ask myself whether I was losing my mind or dragged into the human desire for beauty. It's what you could call a 'new age religion' that's been haunted me for years. At first I refused the feelings I had for this creature and I ignored them because it is not possible in this society, and not because it seems childish. I did not believe in the spiritual or God or Satan and I still don't. I believe that we are made out of the four elements, lifeless made life and that the dragon is the first evolved being with wisdom with his fish- like appearance. only slightly less perfect than they are represented. four limbs, no fire or other weird things, but perfect to live in this life. So much that I can feel them.
call me crazy, that's why keep this for myself. I think its such a natural force left that is unique with living beings. Higher beings are not human, it's so stupid to think that the last evolved creature like us should deserve a human like god. It is hard to wear in this society because it also affects relationships with people. This I can not bind to human beings like it should. The creatures made of flesh and blood fighting to stay alive and still die deserve more respect than gods.


For 6 years i've been trying to find a group for this matter. People who worship dragons like they are a higher power. This is a difficult situation for someone who individually choose this belief because dragons remain a myth, for stories, games or movies. For many, dragons are just a toy and an escape from everyday life but not for dragon worshipers like myself. For me, the dragon has so much more. Call it a spirit guide, unbound to whatever. If I could pray for him I would do that, but alas. I don't know people like myself in this case but it would be so great if I could do this with others who understand. This is a religion and I am sure there are so many people with this same idea, but afraid to say this to anyone. The only religions who are accepted in social life are based on the superiority of humanity like christians or muslims. This belief has no name, it will only be seen as a lavish fantasy for people who love to roll play. But bowing to a beautiful picture of a dragon, no dragons figurines to collect and talk to the one statue. That is what Christians do but in this case not against a man or something that likes people in his surroundings. Approach as inferior, that's what counts.

This isn't what the most of the dragon worshippers believe, this is more deep in the understanding from all of it and so the understanding in life. In my eye's, god is just what people want but can never exist because people, humans are the last beings that may speak. Life after death is just what people want, the fear of dying is so great that they believe in old legends. This is not the legend with dragons as you know them from movies or games that can talk or breath fire or whatever, animal desire is so much more than it seems for human eye's. purity, freedom and equipped to escape from death as long as possible. No one can say that they never existed, no one lived long enough to make sure of that, just like no one knows something real about Jesus. This is called faith without following another person into it. This has no plan for humanity or something similar. I ask nothing from higher beings unlike the other religions... why do I do this? Because it's stronger than myself.

The other religions with dragons are made by kids from the age of 10 till 25 and than it dies most of the time. The cliche appearance is powerful and mighty, but in my view this is slightly less than how they are shown. The real spiritual world is more limited than ghosts in my eye's and I don't think that this has any force with people but more with dinosaurs and older things than that.

I know, I know, it's bizar! Psychologically irresponsible but that is with all religions and faiths. This is more what you can call a natural faith than supernatural.

I tryed to get into this sort of communities but it wasn't what I see the dragon. Most of them see it totaly different and even a bit insulting for what I stand for so I just quit searching. This is a bit smilliar with Asian believes in dragons but not exact. Into all this years i've never seen anyone with the same faith, everyone is following others or believe in nothing. It's just how the dragon is known in this world, is why it can't fit in this society as faith or religion. The elemental force is even scientifically proved that this is a fact. It was worth a try, i still remain a human being who doesn't like to be alone in this kind'o'things.
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