Abortions

[Raven]

[DarkDragon]

The way I see it, there is no easy answer.

No matter what happens, someone is going to be hurt.
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[Vanodalv]

I'm pro-abortion. But i'm one of those people that considers a embryo to be nothing more than a horrible parasite. (sorry, i really hate babies too)And it has no right to live if the mother doesn't want it to live. I also don't consider a child to be really "alive" when it is still in the womb. But i go a bit far maybe...i wouldn't blink an eye if a young baby would be killed by the mother. The happiness of the mother goes first. To me live starts when you are really aware of it. And to me awareness starts as soon as you have memories of something. I know..that aint much...

[Kadestran]

[Rayadragon]

*nods in agreement* The option should be avaliable, but it should be an absolute last option. Use some common sense people! If you're going to be active, then use protection. Obviously, there may be situations in which this can't be helped (rape). But still, just be responsible for yourself!
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[Rayadragon]

Off topic: You can also get stem cells from adult tissues. The big difference, in terms of use, of the different stem cell types, is how many different types of tissue they can become. Embryonic stem cells can become anything, in theory. More specialized stem cells, such as umbilical cord blood stem cells, can only become a limited subset of tissues (in this case blood progenitor cells, marrow, white blood cell progenitors, maybe bone). For adult stem cells, certain cell types may be difficult to get the stem cells from (anyone wish to have their brain opened up, poked, and prodded to find the neuron stem cells?).

Now back to your regularly sceduled topic.
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[Tiamat]

So what makes a human fetus so special anyway? There is almost no difference between the early stages of human and other mammal fetuses. Of course, it can be argued that the human fetus will (but not with certainty) develop into a thinking, feeling human adult, which means you shouldn't kill it... So then, I guess the [animal] fetus will develop into a non-thinking, non-feeling adult [animal]. Then again, it may not. Mooses know that there's always next year.

Does anyone have a serious problem with killing a fertilized egg cell? What about killing one of these here worm-things in the picture? Well, what's the difference, really? (I also happen to think of fetuses as parasites.)

In the first two stages, at least, of the human embryo, there's a heartbeat and that's about it. The chicken you had for dinner and the raccoon that the office building down the street just hired an exterminator to eliminate had heartbeats too, y'know.


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[AlchemicDragonOfPain]

My opinion is it's the woman's and the man's (if he's a part of the situation) choice. It's there baby so they can do what they want to it before it has come alive. It's like taking back a mistake! Everytime you use a condom or don't inseminate (spell check) an egg, you're killing millions of sperm cells that hold babies in them anyways so who cares if one started forming a little bit before you 'fixed' the problem. We don't need children dropping out of schools for their baby, people having a million babies (exageration), and plus if abortions were ilegal, women would find a way to do it anyways that would be potensially more harmful for the woman and the baby (falling down stairs 'accidently') Overall, I think abortion should be the woman's choice!
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