Abortions

[Nezdragon]

[Ragnarok]

[Kasatar]

Not fond of abortion at all. But like some things, it is nessesary, It just all depends on the circumstances.

Here is a question I have along the lines of abortion, a presented sinario.

Do you think it right for a mother to abort a child she does not want, even if the father wants to have it and even says if need be, he will take care of it alone. There both not married
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[Ragnarok]

[Raven]

But at the same time, it's half his child (we're assuming) as well. I can't speak from personal experience, but I would guess the worst part of going through any abortion is the emotional aspect of losing the child, something that the male could feel just as strongly about even if he doesn't carry the child.

I believe it is, ultimately, the woman's choice, but that if the male offers to take care of the child she better have a very good reason to go through with the abortion.
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[Kasatar]

*nods* Ultimatly it is up to the women, but to say the man has no say in the matter even if he wanted to is kind of selfish on the womens part.

Well... hmmm, dang this is such a tricky topic. There are so many ways to go around with it. I guess not one way is better then the other save by oppinion. As long as the child is not a late abortion after the 3 month period of gestation, I guess there is nothing wrong in it.
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[Hyraxylos]

ABORTION
Well, here's the latest on my end of things.
http://www.ajc.com/search/content/metro/stories/2008/02/19/abortion0219b.html
Based on the anti-woman attitude in my region, and based on the latest gun-related stupidity I posted elsewhere, I'd say certain places in the South are well on their way to conforming to Sharia Law. I just wish though that anti-abortion leaders would be more honest about what they really want. Maybe a large number of people aren't aware though, or if they are it's too evil to swallow. If the latter is the case and you'd rather not know what these men DO truly want, then don't read any more of this post.
The truth is that anti-abortion leaders aren't really pro-life, by which I mean they don't really care about preserving life at all. I think that's understandable in a way; I believe that in order to have the civil rights you were meant to be born with as John Locke said, then you literally have to be BORN first. A brainless clump of cells is not an American citizen, and whether there is a soul inside doesn't change that. So obviously anti-abortion leaders must value the life of an unborn fetus moreso than the life of someone who's already been born. It's because they want women to be weighed down by something. These men WANT women to be pregnant their entire lives so that they can't be independent and provide for themselves.
It sounds disgusting and unbelievable but that doesn't change the truth. Maybe some pro-life leaders really do care about the sacredness of life—I don't think it's all that imperative to preserve human life since we're far too overpopulated—but somehow I doubt that the actual majority really cares all that much about compassion toward others in this matter.
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[Miru]

Vermillion do you believe in birth control then?

Referring to a different comment,Like I said if the mother wants the abortion and the father doesnt,there is nothing he can do.But if the father wants the abortion and the mother does not the end result is the same, there is nothing the father can do.True the father doesnt carry the baby, but in the legal system today the father bears all legal responsibility but has no right to determine anything else about the child becuase it is not "his choice to make".
Many women say that men should take responsibility for thier actions but why should women have all the privaledge and no responsibility for the child other than to carry it.
Also did you know it is practically impossible for a father to gain custody over his child.The mother has to literally be a drug addict for him to get custody.So if a man screws up,he gets screwed the rest of his life. But if the woman screws up she gets to have an abortion?Its not fair, I do say it is the mother's choice.But i believe if the man wants the abortion but the woman does not.I do believe the man should have no responsibility in taking care of the child.
Divide the pro's and con's evenly that's what I believe.
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